I have completed the HR annual survey. 1 question asks for the most common cause of anti-Israel media bias. I chose “anti-semitism”, but there is another factor which was not listed. We are witnessing a sweeping liberalization that has broken down social barriers. We are headed towards a society which many consider ideal, i.e., where all peoples live and mate freely without regard to race, religion, etc. This is laudable but creates an inherent conflict with the desire of many Jews to preserve their heritage and prefer their children marry other Jews, and likewise when Israel desires to retain its Jewish character. Well-meaning liberals object, possibly explaining some anti-Israel bias
Perhaps this erosion has accelerated, but the ultra-orthodox Jews manage to hold back the tide. Consider that in Jesus’ time, it is assumed that 10% of people living around the Mediterranean rim were Jews and although their numbers dwindled, nonetheless one always seems to find a strong core of Jews in surprising places. At our local synagogue, many of the key figures are recent converts to Judaism and so it goes. I noted just today, a former Catholic priest who married a Jewish woman, had two children and is active in our synagogue. Worry not.
re: Katz, HR, 23 July 2012
“…most common cause of anti-Israel media bias…”
I tend to agree with your two reasons. I would like to bring up still another factor. Lets call it “Fastest Cowboy Chased and Challenged over and again”.
Historically, Jewish people, has long become the “SMALLEST-WEAKEST-STRONGEST People” of the entire world.
She has magically become “the unconquerable” weak-force of them all, attracting huge forces to challenge her, and her very continuing existence.
Thus, it is not surprising that the most dangerous dictators of the world have been seduced to try and annihilate the Jewish nation by war or diplomatic /philosophical weapon.
I find it hard to imagine an end to anti-Semitism because it is self-perpetuating, e.g. Jewish women should stop eating healthful foods and stop nourishing their children properly, stop being educationally ambitious for their children or teaching them music, cease stimulating table talk, cease mixing with stimulating, cerebral people, stop splitting verbal hairs, stop being demonstratively loving to their children, etc. Can’t be done! The result is that you get profound jealousy from others for your abundant gifts to the world….and rewards.
“I find it hard to imagine an end to anti-Semitism”
Most anti Semites have not traditionally been anti-humans who are “strangers.
Both Traditional Christian- and Moslem-Anti-Semite, love those Jews who depart from Judaism and convert their religion. In this regard the Arian Genetic Anti-Semitism is unique and shared by some fractions of Arains in Germany, in Iran, and some parts of India.
Thus, their enmity is toward JUDAISM, as religion, Tradition, Culture, Way of thought and life, and concepts.
“I find it hard to imagine an end to anti-Semitism”
If I may add:
There are so many disturbed minds that cannot absorb the thought that JEWISH straight and factual TRUTHS, be the Standards by which they can measure themselves and their disturbances.
I suspect that when their conscience wakes up, they are ashamed of themselves, so much that when they look at themselves as reflected in this pure, crystal-clear mirror called JUDAISM, find no way out but breaking the mirror.
For them, Anti-Judaism is a MUST. They have nothing more.
It’s only an opinion, but I can’t conceive of an anti-Semite ever being ashamed of his anti-Semitism, and if he later finds himself to be Jewish or part Jewish, he can go either way: more or less full of hate. It becomes a sustaining, driving force in his life, gives it meaning, and seeks fellow haters to socialize their inadequacy together.
it about time the British nation and its official broadcast service will recognized their shear in what happened in the Middle East and especially between Israel and the Palestinian. the were always every civilized and left civil war in all their colony. they blessed us in the first Holocaust in the middle ages. they Blessed us with Haj Amin el Husseini which the Palestinian today carry his uncompromising believes. Jerusalem was and always be the hart of the Jewish people and the capital of Israel. it always had Jewish residence except the 1948-1967. they have to pace their on hypocrisy and miss deed and look first on their own action before they preach to other.
What the Brits should do and what they do do are very different things. After all, they believe themselves to be the most civilized folks on earth and, this is just a guess, they can’t stand the thought that “mere Jews” could be far more creative, civilized, and enriching to the human race than they are. I had the mixed blessing of traveling tourist class aboard the Queen Mary across the Atlantic. If that is the backbone of the British nation!!!! or whilst driving about the British countryside, listening to call in talk radio….!!!!!!
I invite you to read my July 10 column “Recognize Tragedy as Olympic History,” at http://www.sanfordspeaksout.blogspot.com. Read, comment and follow. Thank you.
I know I should not respond to this “Child” for it is unlikly to read my response-
However in case there is any one else reading it-
E v W Pakistan- 1250000 dead
Iran v Iraq 1million dead
Rwanda 900000 dead
Iraq 300000 Kurds dead +20000 Shias every (Average) by Saddam
Tajikstan 50000 dead
Jordan v Arafat 25000 dead
Syria v Hamas 20000 dead
I could go on
However during all the Israeli v Arab wars only 3500 killed.
ie: More Muslims die at the hands of other Muslims than any one else.
The Algerian Civil War was an armed conflict between the Algerian government and various Islamist groups ( GIA ) which began in 1991.
It is estimated to have cost between 250,000 lives
some 11,000,000 Muslims have been violently killed since 1948, of which 35,000, or 0.3 percent, died during the sixty years of fighting Israel, or just 1 out of every 315 Muslim fatalities. In contrast, over 90 percent of the 11 million who perished were killed by fellow Muslims.”
This morning I went to a service and held a minutes silence at 11 am-
Can any one tell me since that terrible incident at Munich has there been any demand to any other country since then for a minutes silence- from Japan to the USA.?
Has any country hosting the Olympics since Munich actually had any representation for the murdered Israeli athletes.?
Israel (and Israeli in general) do not know HOW to communicate nor APPEAL to the world media in an attractive, elegant and positive way. Our ancestors communicated via influential Torah. Living outside Israel, I see media bias both ways. Both anti and pro-Israel can be highly displeasing and arrogant with old prejudices. Israeli education should focus degrees on our broadcasting a positive identity, confidence, self-assurance, but not arrogant or full-of-ourselves. This fuels the worst media and turns people off regardless of nationality or tradition. HR can tell successful stories of each culture not just Israel’s. Appreciation not denounciation will boomerang appreciation. Think about it.
Re :G. David Jul28,2012 HR
“Israel do not know HOW to communicate nor APPEAL to the world media in an attractive, elegant and positive way”
I am totally jealous of your pure innocence.
There were times that the media was “the watch dog” of Human Rights, Reality and Truth, Legality and Honesty, etc.
That age has long gone and with that Honesty, Truth, Legality and Humanity.
Now the era is of Arab-Moslem Wealth which buys everything: false Agendas destructive to world, Group Self centered Narrative, Attorneys, Reporters, Media Advisors, Public Relations, and tons of Re-Constructed INVENTIVE History!
Israelis have only their TRUTH and demand HONESTY. We do NOT BUY! do not SELL & OFFER.
Might I add that many Jews too often tend to communicate with a disrespectful intimacy and familiarity that probably is inappropriate even within families much less with strangers. While employed at Hebrew U. 60 years ago, I was asked to consider how we might “teach Israelis good manners.” It may just be a matter of both our making some more respectful alterations in the way we speak to each other and being aware of how impatient we are when strangers “just don’t seem to get it.” (They’re often not as bright, flexible, and uninhibited as we are). Orwell observed years ago, that British subject colonials had the advantage of learning not only a second language, but another cultural pattern.
I dont think it matters-
Why should anyone have to change their cultural ways- If people are good communicators then they should understand others ways-
The Brits are known to be reserved and stand in line or que-
The Americans are “Gung Ho” and extrovert .
The Asian community some what arrogant-
Thanks for the great idea, but it’s not just table manners, but respectful and effective listening and speaking that is the ultimate goal with respect to our more successful foreign relations and world image. Not only do we end up with a “smoother style”, but we better achieve both our proximal and long term goals. The story is that Edward Bernays was a successful public relations man in the US and asked his uncle Sigmund to share his relevant psychoanalytic findings. It proved to make Bernays a master at his craft. I suggest that we study his works or at the very least use Dale Carnegie for starters.
Good idea and I agree, but at age 87, I don’t have plans for mess halls, but it may be time for an Israeli tv comic to produce a series. I’ll be m aking aliya shortly and will look into it. Thanks again.
I was 59 in 1991 when I volunteered with Sar El.
I’ll soon be 80 so I am catching up to you.
I admit that I thoroughly enjoyed the mess hall food but was surprised at the table manners. It was explained that their families were too busy fighting wars and building a country and earning a living to have much time for the niceties of society. I fear the same may apply today.
You should visit a mess hall when you are there. Those kids and they are kids are, despite table manners, something very very special.
The name Sabra is not used very much any more. It should be.
Re: S Mann, HR July 28, 2012
“Has any country hosting the Olympics since Munich actually had any representation for the murdered Israeli athletes.? If not why now?”
My questions are: What if?
* What if Among the victims there were a few Non-Jews? Say European, Asian, African sportsmen killed?
* What if the victims of that Islamic Terror were SOLELY non-Jewish?
* What if the Terror was non-ISLAMIC killing? Say Radical Left? Right?
* What if the Victims were Moslems? Arabs? Persians?
* What if, G’-d forbidden, such terror was carried out by Jews/Israelis?
How the world would behave?
What can we expect from this humanistic world, where it is NOT any of What ifs?
Honesty, lies here!
As a youngster back in the ’30′s and ’40′s, I used to read the Hollywood gossip columns and innocently believed all those planted stories and fabrications of the Hollywood press agents until I grew up and understood that we were faced with an industry of make believe.
Nowadays, I find myself confronted with an industry of political lying and propaganda of the most insidious sort, even more outrageous than the wildest imaginings of those old time Hollywood press agents. I am mindful now of an intelligence officer colleague who once explained to me that he never read the press, just the history books. I try to remember that with each day’s clamorous media outpourings of propaganda.
Well said; and by the time some of us old guys catch on, the young ‘uns will have to learn how not to be conned all over again. Even Fact Check and Politifact is irrelevant to many. Some don’t really care if something is true or not. They are merely looking for vindication of their views.
We’ve exhausted the land for peace diplomacy; why don’t we declare a negotiating position of land for land? Ron Prossor said it at the UN April 24: the Arabs stole Mizrahi lands 1948-67 amounting to territory four times the size of Israel. The various Muslim lands can have the Mizrahi assets in exchange for Arab-free Judea, Samaria, Gaza AND Sinai.
Let’s sit down with the real puppet masters, the Arab League, and settle our differences openly and honestly without all this behind the scenes, sneaky game playing. History has it that, in reaction to Herzl’s dream, the Arab leadership in 1902 cunningly began urging landless farmers from Egypt and Syria to populate and farm what is now Israel
Eliot Katz
10:36 pm
Jul 22, 2012
I have completed the HR annual survey. 1 question asks for the most common cause of anti-Israel media bias. I chose “anti-semitism”, but there is another factor which was not listed. We are witnessing a sweeping liberalization that has broken down social barriers. We are headed towards a society which many consider ideal, i.e., where all peoples live and mate freely without regard to race, religion, etc. This is laudable but creates an inherent conflict with the desire of many Jews to preserve their heritage and prefer their children marry other Jews, and likewise when Israel desires to retain its Jewish character. Well-meaning liberals object, possibly explaining some anti-Israel bias
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M.Otero
7:08 am
Jul 23, 2012
Perhaps this erosion has accelerated, but the ultra-orthodox Jews manage to hold back the tide. Consider that in Jesus’ time, it is assumed that 10% of people living around the Mediterranean rim were Jews and although their numbers dwindled, nonetheless one always seems to find a strong core of Jews in surprising places. At our local synagogue, many of the key figures are recent converts to Judaism and so it goes. I noted just today, a former Catholic priest who married a Jewish woman, had two children and is active in our synagogue. Worry not.
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Avi
3:43 am
Jul 23, 2012
re: Katz, HR, 23 July 2012
“…most common cause of anti-Israel media bias…”
I tend to agree with your two reasons. I would like to bring up still another factor. Lets call it “Fastest Cowboy Chased and Challenged over and again”.
Historically, Jewish people, has long become the “SMALLEST-WEAKEST-STRONGEST People” of the entire world.
She has magically become “the unconquerable” weak-force of them all, attracting huge forces to challenge her, and her very continuing existence.
Thus, it is not surprising that the most dangerous dictators of the world have been seduced to try and annihilate the Jewish nation by war or diplomatic /philosophical weapon.
The shooters now are MEDIA
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M.Otero
4:17 am
Jul 23, 2012
I find it hard to imagine an end to anti-Semitism because it is self-perpetuating, e.g. Jewish women should stop eating healthful foods and stop nourishing their children properly, stop being educationally ambitious for their children or teaching them music, cease stimulating table talk, cease mixing with stimulating, cerebral people, stop splitting verbal hairs, stop being demonstratively loving to their children, etc. Can’t be done! The result is that you get profound jealousy from others for your abundant gifts to the world….and rewards.
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Avi
6:46 am
Jul 23, 2012
Re: M.Otero 23 July 2012–07–23
“I find it hard to imagine an end to anti-Semitism”
Most anti Semites have not traditionally been anti-humans who are “strangers.
Both Traditional Christian- and Moslem-Anti-Semite, love those Jews who depart from Judaism and convert their religion. In this regard the Arian Genetic Anti-Semitism is unique and shared by some fractions of Arains in Germany, in Iran, and some parts of India.
Thus, their enmity is toward JUDAISM, as religion, Tradition, Culture, Way of thought and life, and concepts.
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Avi
6:57 am
Jul 23, 2012
Re: M.Otero 23 July 2012–07–23
“I find it hard to imagine an end to anti-Semitism”
If I may add:
There are so many disturbed minds that cannot absorb the thought that JEWISH straight and factual TRUTHS, be the Standards by which they can measure themselves and their disturbances.
I suspect that when their conscience wakes up, they are ashamed of themselves, so much that when they look at themselves as reflected in this pure, crystal-clear mirror called JUDAISM, find no way out but breaking the mirror.
For them, Anti-Judaism is a MUST. They have nothing more.
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M.Otero
11:31 am
Jul 23, 2012
It’s only an opinion, but I can’t conceive of an anti-Semite ever being ashamed of his anti-Semitism, and if he later finds himself to be Jewish or part Jewish, he can go either way: more or less full of hate. It becomes a sustaining, driving force in his life, gives it meaning, and seeks fellow haters to socialize their inadequacy together.
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Ziva Fain
5:05 am
Jul 24, 2012
it about time the British nation and its official broadcast service will recognized their shear in what happened in the Middle East and especially between Israel and the Palestinian. the were always every civilized and left civil war in all their colony. they blessed us in the first Holocaust in the middle ages. they Blessed us with Haj Amin el Husseini which the Palestinian today carry his uncompromising believes. Jerusalem was and always be the hart of the Jewish people and the capital of Israel. it always had Jewish residence except the 1948-1967. they have to pace their on hypocrisy and miss deed and look first on their own action before they preach to other.
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M.Otero
6:05 am
Jul 24, 2012
What the Brits should do and what they do do are very different things. After all, they believe themselves to be the most civilized folks on earth and, this is just a guess, they can’t stand the thought that “mere Jews” could be far more creative, civilized, and enriching to the human race than they are. I had the mixed blessing of traveling tourist class aboard the Queen Mary across the Atlantic. If that is the backbone of the British nation!!!! or whilst driving about the British countryside, listening to call in talk radio….!!!!!!
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Sanford D. Horn
5:57 pm
Jul 24, 2012
I invite you to read my July 10 column “Recognize Tragedy as Olympic History,” at http://www.sanfordspeaksout.blogspot.com. Read, comment and follow. Thank you.
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u gonna be burnt, Israel
12:25 am
Jul 25, 2012
u do not tell the truth and u know about the massacres committed by your soldiers more than the Arabs themselves
down with Israel
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steve mann
10:39 am
Jul 25, 2012
I know I should not respond to this “Child” for it is unlikly to read my response-
However in case there is any one else reading it-
E v W Pakistan- 1250000 dead
Iran v Iraq 1million dead
Rwanda 900000 dead
Iraq 300000 Kurds dead +20000 Shias every (Average) by Saddam
Tajikstan 50000 dead
Jordan v Arafat 25000 dead
Syria v Hamas 20000 dead
I could go on
However during all the Israeli v Arab wars only 3500 killed.
ie: More Muslims die at the hands of other Muslims than any one else.
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jean vercors
11:05 am
Jul 25, 2012
The Algerian Civil War was an armed conflict between the Algerian government and various Islamist groups ( GIA ) which began in 1991.
It is estimated to have cost between 250,000 lives
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jean vercors
11:05 am
Jul 25, 2012
some 11,000,000 Muslims have been violently killed since 1948, of which 35,000, or 0.3 percent, died during the sixty years of fighting Israel, or just 1 out of every 315 Muslim fatalities. In contrast, over 90 percent of the 11 million who perished were killed by fellow Muslims.”
Education is not a sin
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Neville Alperstein
6:00 pm
Jul 27, 2012
Why are we asking for 1 minute of silence for this Olympic Games. There should be a minute of silence at every Olympic Games going forward.
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steve mann
6:11 pm
Jul 27, 2012
This morning I went to a service and held a minutes silence at 11 am-
Can any one tell me since that terrible incident at Munich has there been any demand to any other country since then for a minutes silence- from Japan to the USA.?
Has any country hosting the Olympics since Munich actually had any representation for the murdered Israeli athletes.?
If not why now?
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Gil David
12:26 pm
Jul 28, 2012
Israel (and Israeli in general) do not know HOW to communicate nor APPEAL to the world media in an attractive, elegant and positive way. Our ancestors communicated via influential Torah. Living outside Israel, I see media bias both ways. Both anti and pro-Israel can be highly displeasing and arrogant with old prejudices. Israeli education should focus degrees on our broadcasting a positive identity, confidence, self-assurance, but not arrogant or full-of-ourselves. This fuels the worst media and turns people off regardless of nationality or tradition. HR can tell successful stories of each culture not just Israel’s. Appreciation not denounciation will boomerang appreciation. Think about it.
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Avi
10:41 pm
Jul 28, 2012
Re :G. David Jul28,2012 HR
“Israel do not know HOW to communicate nor APPEAL to the world media in an attractive, elegant and positive way”
I am totally jealous of your pure innocence.
There were times that the media was “the watch dog” of Human Rights, Reality and Truth, Legality and Honesty, etc.
That age has long gone and with that Honesty, Truth, Legality and Humanity.
Now the era is of Arab-Moslem Wealth which buys everything: false Agendas destructive to world, Group Self centered Narrative, Attorneys, Reporters, Media Advisors, Public Relations, and tons of Re-Constructed INVENTIVE History!
Israelis have only their TRUTH and demand HONESTY. We do NOT BUY! do not SELL & OFFER.
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M.Otero
7:02 pm
Jul 28, 2012
Might I add that many Jews too often tend to communicate with a disrespectful intimacy and familiarity that probably is inappropriate even within families much less with strangers. While employed at Hebrew U. 60 years ago, I was asked to consider how we might “teach Israelis good manners.” It may just be a matter of both our making some more respectful alterations in the way we speak to each other and being aware of how impatient we are when strangers “just don’t seem to get it.” (They’re often not as bright, flexible, and uninhibited as we are). Orwell observed years ago, that British subject colonials had the advantage of learning not only a second language, but another cultural pattern.
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steve mann
7:17 pm
Jul 28, 2012
I dont think it matters-
Why should anyone have to change their cultural ways- If people are good communicators then they should understand others ways-
The Brits are known to be reserved and stand in line or que-
The Americans are “Gung Ho” and extrovert .
The Asian community some what arrogant-
So- we should all put up with each others ways.
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Mickey Oberman
7:19 pm
Jul 28, 2012
Have you ever been in the mess hall of an IDF base?
Hundreds of bright, intelligent young people enjoying their meals (or not) and sitting there for 1/2 hour or more.
What a wonderful opportunity to teach these folks manners of all kinds.
But the teaching must be done with sensitivity and humour, not forced upon them.
Give them reasons, and there are many, why good manners would be a lifetime asset to them.
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M.Otero
7:54 pm
Jul 28, 2012
Thanks for the great idea, but it’s not just table manners, but respectful and effective listening and speaking that is the ultimate goal with respect to our more successful foreign relations and world image. Not only do we end up with a “smoother style”, but we better achieve both our proximal and long term goals. The story is that Edward Bernays was a successful public relations man in the US and asked his uncle Sigmund to share his relevant psychoanalytic findings. It proved to make Bernays a master at his craft. I suggest that we study his works or at the very least use Dale Carnegie for starters.
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Mickey Oberman
8:36 pm
Jul 28, 2012
I did not mean solely table manners but person to person manners as well.
If successful such informal sessions might be carried into other fields too.
There are no limits.
I just observed the three weeks I was at Julis that the meal times could be used constructively.
I think that once several people in a group show an interest it might snowball to the benefit of many.
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M.Otero
9:04 pm
Jul 28, 2012
Good idea and I agree, but at age 87, I don’t have plans for mess halls, but it may be time for an Israeli tv comic to produce a series. I’ll be m aking aliya shortly and will look into it. Thanks again.
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Mickey Oberman
9:56 pm
Jul 28, 2012
I was 59 in 1991 when I volunteered with Sar El.
I’ll soon be 80 so I am catching up to you.
I admit that I thoroughly enjoyed the mess hall food but was surprised at the table manners. It was explained that their families were too busy fighting wars and building a country and earning a living to have much time for the niceties of society. I fear the same may apply today.
You should visit a mess hall when you are there. Those kids and they are kids are, despite table manners, something very very special.
The name Sabra is not used very much any more. It should be.
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Avi
9:59 pm
Jul 28, 2012
Re: S Mann, HR July 28, 2012
“Has any country hosting the Olympics since Munich actually had any representation for the murdered Israeli athletes.? If not why now?”
My questions are: What if?
* What if Among the victims there were a few Non-Jews? Say European, Asian, African sportsmen killed?
* What if the victims of that Islamic Terror were SOLELY non-Jewish?
* What if the Terror was non-ISLAMIC killing? Say Radical Left? Right?
* What if the Victims were Moslems? Arabs? Persians?
* What if, G’-d forbidden, such terror was carried out by Jews/Israelis?
How the world would behave?
What can we expect from this humanistic world, where it is NOT any of What ifs?
Honesty, lies here!
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M.Otero
5:01 am
Jul 29, 2012
As a youngster back in the ’30′s and ’40′s, I used to read the Hollywood gossip columns and innocently believed all those planted stories and fabrications of the Hollywood press agents until I grew up and understood that we were faced with an industry of make believe.
Nowadays, I find myself confronted with an industry of political lying and propaganda of the most insidious sort, even more outrageous than the wildest imaginings of those old time Hollywood press agents. I am mindful now of an intelligence officer colleague who once explained to me that he never read the press, just the history books. I try to remember that with each day’s clamorous media outpourings of propaganda.
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Jan Freed
5:14 am
Jul 29, 2012
Well said; and by the time some of us old guys catch on, the young ‘uns will have to learn how not to be conned all over again. Even Fact Check and Politifact is irrelevant to many. Some don’t really care if something is true or not. They are merely looking for vindication of their views.
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M.Otero
6:44 pm
Jul 29, 2012
We’ve exhausted the land for peace diplomacy; why don’t we declare a negotiating position of land for land? Ron Prossor said it at the UN April 24: the Arabs stole Mizrahi lands 1948-67 amounting to territory four times the size of Israel. The various Muslim lands can have the Mizrahi assets in exchange for Arab-free Judea, Samaria, Gaza AND Sinai.
Let’s sit down with the real puppet masters, the Arab League, and settle our differences openly and honestly without all this behind the scenes, sneaky game playing. History has it that, in reaction to Herzl’s dream, the Arab leadership in 1902 cunningly began urging landless farmers from Egypt and Syria to populate and farm what is now Israel
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