Flytilla Fails to Take Off
April 16, 2012 14:14 by Simon Plosker
It was meant to be a Palestinian PR dream. Over 2,000 activists scheduled to converge on Israel’s Ben-Gurion Airport, arriving on planes from around the world as part of a “Welcome to Palestine” flytilla.
Israel had done its homework, however. No-fly lists of potential activists sent to airlines prevented many from even boarding their flights at the point of departure. What could have been a major international incident turned from a flytilla into a floptilla, the lack of action described by The Times of Israel reporting from Ben-Gurion Airport:
But by mid-morning, nothing much was happening. Nothing had been happening for quite some time, reported an Associated Press TV cameraman in the arrivals hall who had replaced another cameraman who had watched nothing happen for most of the night. …
There were no fewer than 13 TV cameras and about 30 journalists around the terminal, bored and standing around in clumps. Anyone expecting Tahrir Square was presented instead with “Waiting for Godot.”
Indeed, the story barely registered on the radars of the US press, probably due to the fact that the majority of the activists were Europeans.
Snide headline of the day went to CNN:
Hours later, CNN updated the headline to something more neutral: “Israel detains pro-Palestinian activists”.
And what of the “snide letter” described by CNN? It’s worth noting as one of the means deployed by Israel to pop the activists’ balloons.
Dear activist, we appreciate your choosing to make Israel the object of your humanitarian concerns.
We know there were many other worthy choices. You could have chosen to protest the Syrian regime’s daily savagery against its own people, which has claimed thousands of lives.
You could have chosen to protest the Iranian regime’s brutal crackdown on dissent and support of terrorism throughout the world. You could have chosen to protest Hamas rule in Gaza, where terror organizations commit a double war crime by firing rockets at civilians and hiding behind civilians.
But instead you chose to protest against Israel, the Middle East’s sole democracy, where women are equal, the press criticizes the government, human rights organizations can operate freely, religious freedom is protected for all and minorities do not live in fear.
Therefore we suggest to let you solve first the real problems of the region, and then come back and share with us your experience.
Have a nice flight.
ruth cohen
8:27 pm
Apr 16, 2012
shalom from the holy city jerusalem
we are delighted that these low sleazy criminals did not come here. delighted delighted. we are so fed up with our own left wing gangsters making trouble for us all the time under the pretense of free speech. and this was a real slap in the face for them too.
now we watched tv last night and in europe when the idiots realised that they would not be eating supper in bethlehem(our tv said) they started to make troubles at their airports and their own police beat the living hell out of them. and i was jumping up and down with joy.how lovely to see wicked people who want to come here to help terrorists kill jews get beaten up by their own police. yah yah yah
so leave us alone world – this is our land given to us by the creator and we are staying here forever. and all our enemies will break into pieces in front of our eyes like we saw yesterday. man plans and god laughs.
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Ellen
9:45 pm
Apr 16, 2012
I like your honest comment and with you I am delighted too
Glad that all the silly grazy people has to stay home.I pray for the peace in Israel, for the people and I am glad that the Government used they’re brain.Keep them out all the criminals.
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Glenn Tamir
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Adam
8:34 pm
Apr 16, 2012
Bravo to the Israeli government for disarming these misguided ‘useful idiots’. My wife and I just returned from Israel and we continue to marvel at this vibrant and thriving country. In Jerusalem and elsewhere Christians, Muslims, B’hai, Samaritans, Jews, and people of other faiths are worshipping freely and without fear of violence or retribution. The parks and beaches near Tel Aviv are crowded with Jews and Arabs enjoying barbeque and time with their families. These types of personal and religious freedoms exist nowhere else in the Middle East and are experienced in only a handful of countries around the world. While Israel is by no means perfect it is the model for by which other countries should be measured and vision that people of the Middle East should aspire to.
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Mirian
8:59 pm
Apr 16, 2012
I live in the U.S. The Citizens here are very much in support of Israel. She took in the Christians when Obama left them abandoned to be slaughtered by the Muslims. Muslims who are wounded run straight to Israel’s medical care — they don’t pay them…then they run back to fight against Israel.
Israel WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED.
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Carol
8:39 pm
Apr 16, 2012
HELLO YOU ALL
We all know the answer — why “activists” converge on Israel to demonstrate rather than Syria, Iran, North Korea, China, Sudan,etc…. Because the chances of their being mowed down, never to rise again, in Israel is close to zero. You got it! Hey, they could get hurt in some of those other, undemocratic and terrorist regimes! Underneath whatever their exterior skin color is yellow, yellow, and more yellow.
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Glenn Tamir
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Esther
10:40 pm
Apr 16, 2012
Hey, Glenn! Carol is not comparing, she’s contrasting! (in other words, the exact opposite!) Your logic is so blurred by your ideologies, that you can no longer see! Do us a favor: go hit your head against the wall a few times, and see if something snaps back into place. You probably mean well, but man, as we say here in the US: you are really screwed up!
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Glenn Tamir
10:47 pm
Apr 16, 2012
When you contrast something you make a comparison to it. When you say “look how much worse Syria and Iran are” you are saying that Israel is much better – which it is. It just has a long way to go and you are comparing us to them which should not be necessary.
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Esther
11:05 pm
Apr 16, 2012
No. When you compare, you state similarities. When you contrast, you state differences. And Carol did not say “look how much worse the other countries are”. YOU said that! What she said was that the protesters want to come to Israel, because they know they will be safe. They know that what will happen to them in those other places will NOT happen to them in Israel. This is exactly your problem, Glenn…you hear what you want to hear. You do not listen to what is being said! In your zealousness to be right, you refuse to hear anything else that is being said. Chew on that for a while!
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Esther
10:02 pm
Apr 16, 2012
Quite the contrary, Chanale. Now EVERYONE got the letter, and it’s been read throughout the world! We can only hope that it has given some people something to think about. There are some minds that will never be changed, I know, but I wonder how many people out there are thinking: “you know, this is logical and it makes sense”?
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Esther
9:56 pm
Apr 16, 2012
What Flavia fails to realize, is that a democracy has freedom of speech for IT’S CITIZENS and is in no way, shape or form obligated to invite citizens from other countries into it’s borders, for the sole purpose of protesting. Regardless of where they are from, or what they wish to protest, the fact that a country, any country does not welcome them, does not make that country any less of a democracy. Being a democracy does not mean having to be a fool. Her premise is incorrect, and therefore, her conclusion is incorrect as well. I think we all clearly understand what Flavia is all about, and despite how much she tries to muddy the water, we are able to see quite clearly through her ranting and attempts to distract.
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Esther
10:14 pm
Apr 16, 2012
Glenn, wake up! You think you are too smart. Smarter than everybody! You are so naive. You are in a dream world! These people would have your head on a platter, my friend! You should thank G-d that you have all of these horrible people in the Israeli government and IDF to protect you from your own worst enemy…YOURSELF!
You remind me of the guy who goes to the zoo and protests the gates separating the animals from the visiting public. How unfair! You know what they call him? LUNCH!
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Glenn Tamir
10:58 pm
Apr 16, 2012
How little you know bout me and reality. I don’t want my children who fight for the IDF defending a bunch of spoiled brats who have received generous donations from MY taxes to pay for their “dream” of living in “greater Israel”. I want a nice strong border – no, don’t let the animals out of the cages – but don’t continue to build more cages around them and place fanatics in their cages around them and call it their G-d given right to do so.
The Israeli government is run by a bunch of fools who only care about giving pork (sorry for the non-kosher analogy) to their supporters so they can stay in the government and get big paychecks and private limos. The honest hard-working true zionists who built and continue to build this country are getting smaller and leaving in droves because of this. The fanatics and non-democratic racists are taking over and this is very sad.
Here’s a good example: My wife was walking along the beach in Tiberias the other day. The paramedics had just resuscitated a man who had been drowning. Two guys dressed in Jewish religious clothing made the comment “so what, he was an Arab.” My wife reminded them that in the Torah, all men are created in the image of G-d.
Israelis need to be reminded that all people are created in the image of G-d. Just because others may have forgotten this, does not mean we have to sink to their level. You should not either.
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Esther
12:22 am
Apr 17, 2012
Your children are in the IDF? I pray for them day and night! I believe that comments and opinions like the ones you post, make their work harder and endanger them. Now, after so many posts, you finally say you want a nice strong border! Why don’t you start by saying that?
You obviously begrudge the government, and even despise them. Now you say what your gripe REALLY is, when you talk about corruption! Well, if you talk about that, then you will find me agreeing with much of what you say. I have zero tolerance for corruption! But none of your earlier posts were about corruption either. Your comments were just rebellious, ideological rants about the horrible government of Israel! Bottom line is they kept a bunch of trouble makers out, and I am very glad they did so!
As for my animals behind cages at the zoo comment: I was referring to REAL animals at a REAL zoo, so if you stretched it to mean that I was making a comparison with people, let me be clear that I was not! I will repeat it: your comments make you sound like somebody who would go to a zoo and protest the fences! Yes, I do mean that the fences are there to protect you! My point is that you are unreasonable about needing protection.
As for your wife’s encounter at the beach: Yes, that is a terrible example of humanity, and the comments were inappropriate. But once again, this forum was not about that! You have a lot of misplaced anger! Keeping troublemakers out of a country is not sinking to anybody’s level. Your misdirected comments gives ammunition to the other side. They hate us already. They do not need any excuses or reasons to hate us! You can go to their front door with flowers, and they are still going to blow your head off!
Israel IS a democracy! People of all religions coexist there peacefully! All religions are respected. You live in a great country. A fair country. A HUMANE country. A successful country that respects life. A country in which a drowning man will be pulled out of the water and saved, regardless of who he is! Why did you focus on the woman’s insensitive comment, and not the fact that Israeli rescuers saved an Arab man? THAT is what you should be posting on the internet! There is so much good to say about Israel, yet you, a citizen with children in the IDF, come on a forum like this, and post inflammatory and insulting remarks about your country for the world to see! Yes, Israel is indeed a democracy…nobody will arrest you or cut your head off for all of the trash-talking about your country. Your Arab counterpart is not quite so lucky! You need to get your anger in check, and make sure that the things you resent are the things you are commenting about! You need to look at your posts before submitting them, and ask yourself if this will help your country!
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Ellen Lindemans
7:40 am
Apr 17, 2012
People like Flavia, doesn’t realize that is has nothing to do with democracy when a government is protecting the country for people who noting else want than: problems.Activists are not peaceful at all that’s what Flotilla learned not long ago.So again Flavia, I Iive in Netherland an I think that my covernment has the duty to protect us from evil people and when that means “to keep them out the country”, that’s okay with me.We have without all that nonsens problems enough and that’s the same for Israel. When you want to protest about real problems go to Iran, Egypt e.s.o. Realize that your opinion about Isreal is colered by your meaning about the country and is not objective at all. For me: I like the action from Israel now and call it wise and intelligent to do so.Keeping the protestors outside is a great action.the USA does this all the time without your protest.How about that? And by that: It’s not a human right to get the possibility to bring problems in an other country because of your meaning about that country as outsider, that’s why you not go to Iran, Egypt e.s.o. because you know they put you in prison and forgot for years that you are there.
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nada
10:02 pm
Apr 16, 2012
Bravo, Israel!
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Esther
10:23 pm
Apr 16, 2012
Thank you, Natalie from Germany. Your common sense and logic prove that there is hope for this crazy world.
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Natalie
10:42 pm
Apr 16, 2012
Thanks for your positive response, Esther. Glad that at least one person had the chance to read my comment and responded positively, before it was deleted. Otherwise I would have felt completely wasting my precious time in writing and posting my opinion.
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Esther
10:53 pm
Apr 16, 2012
Natalie, you can be sure that many people have read your comment, and in the days to come, many more will read it. It will not be deleted. Most of the people reading do not wish to comment, but you can be sure that what you wrote is very well-received and much appreciated. Well, except for Glenn, anyway!
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Natalie
11:10 pm
Apr 16, 2012
But I can’t find my comment anymore, it’s gone, Esther. I had responded to Flavia’s comment and this entry is deleted, too.
Anyway, I normally don’t comment on articles, because I have some difficulties to write in perfect English and have not much time, but the Anti-Israelian politics and the pro Palestinian opinion making in Europe is disgusting. How can a civilized person can agree with the goals, hatred and world view of these Hamas and Co’s and neighbors? For me it’s just modern fascism. So again, thumb up for Lufhansa!
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Flavia
11:57 pm
Apr 16, 2012
Dear Natalie, since my comment was removed, yours – in reply to it – had to go too! It’s called “the dissent never happened”, internet version based on the evergreen “1984″. And by the way, what democratic chain of command was ordering Lufthansa about? What misterious new piece of regulation was invented to stop perfectly free citizens to travel? It’s right, Europe is turning fascist. Enjoy.
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Natalie
12:48 am
Apr 17, 2012
Dear Flavia, hmm, Guess I have to post the definition of fascism by Prof. Robert Paxton (Wikipedia) again:
A form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.
It fits perfectly to Hamas & Co and neighbors and their supporters. copy/paste …but the Anti-Israelian politics and the pro Palestinian opinion making in Europe is disgusting. How can a civilized person can agree with the goals, hatred and world view of these Hamas and Co’s and neighbors? For me it’s just modern fascism. So again, thumb up for Lufhansa!
Israel was right to let these troublemakers not in the country on a holiday to create a mess… Who pays for the overtime of the police? Who pays for their stay in the prison? Who pays for their flight back?
…and hmmm, quoting Ruth Cohen: now we watched tv last night and in europe when the … realised that they would not be eating supper in bethlehem (our tv said) they started to make troubles at their airports and their own police beat…
Now you see what kind of people were on their way… If they would really like to stand up for human rights, they would have plenty of reasons to point their fingers to the very people they support…
Democracy should not put up with every stupidity on the face of the earth. Israel saved some $$$’s and nasty headlines.
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Esther
12:51 am
Apr 17, 2012
Calm down, Flavia! Don’t let your paranoia get the best of you! I have been unable to load page one all day. That’s ALL of page one, not just FLAVIA’S COMMENT! You see, where you come from, that’s how they might do things, but here? Not really! My bet is they’ll probably figure out that there’s something wrong and fix it! Good imagination on the conspiracy theory, though! If you like, you can go back to older stories and find people with opinions just like yours, and they have not been removed. Don’t give yourself so much credit…you comments did not rise to the level of “worthy of removal”, even if there were some great conspiracy going on.
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Esther
12:56 am
Apr 17, 2012
Well, well, Natalie! It does not look to me like you are having any trouble with the English language whatsoever! Let me give you one of our current Amarican sayings: YOU GO GIRL! ! !
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Natalie
1:20 am
Apr 17, 2012
Thanks Esther, try my best… What’s going on makes me angry sometimes, but should not allow myself to be provoked. I know that God is in perfect control, even if half of Europe is brain washed…
I pray for Israel and their neighbors.
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Esther
2:28 am
Apr 17, 2012
I find it funny that in one breath you say I am patronizing people, and in the very next, I am pulverizing someone’s words into tiny bits. Which is it? As far as your partonizing comment goes, you must be referring to Natalie. Her writing grabbed my attention. I agreed with her message. I found it interesting that I came from someone other than an Israeli or an American. That’s what these forums are for! Like they say, if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen!
As for my first response to your earlier comment, I do not even remember what it was, but If I read it and disagreed and felt like commenting, that’s the way it goes. I would look back, but as you are well aware, page one is not opening! Yes, ALL of page one, Flavia! Not just your comment! Yeah, I still think that’s paranoid of you! And everything else you criticize me for doing? That is called debate! Do I think you are an open book? I don’t really know, but at least this one chapter of your book is open, and I am only going by what you write. And just for the record, it never even crossed my mind that your opinions were formed by “wicked Palestenian propaganda” as you put it! This whole debate was about whether Israel should or should not have let protestors into the country, and their “snide letter”. Both actions, I fully support, and I will most certainly voice that opinion as strongly as I wish to. By the way, keeping protestors out of your country is not a “conventional wheapon”. Neither is writing a snide letter.
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yanshuf
10:19 am
Apr 17, 2012
By the way, Flavia, how many illegal immigrants have recently died on Italian shores? I seem to remember some very ugly scenes. Is mafia-controlled Italy really such a model of democracy?
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steve mann
3:21 pm
Apr 17, 2012
From your previous post- Every one has the right to travel- However every country has the right to refuse admission of foreign nationals to which it finds undesirable.
As far as conflict is concerned- regardless of any type of weapon if you are not aware by now that the Islamic groups;ie Hamas, Hezbollah etc have vowed never to accept Israel.
They agree to cease fires but never to a peace treaty.
So Flavia, regardless of which governing body is in power in Israel, how do you suggest this is resolved?
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Elia Harris
3:23 am
Apr 17, 2012
I am certainly grateful that Israel has intelligent and logical people in government in charge of keeping possible trouble makers out of their country, thereby protecting its people. And the government and the citizens are responsible for their safety, and did an excellent job in this regard. The opinions of outsiders are based on their own level of accurate knowledge and their own logic, but that has nothing to do with the rights of each country to make decisions for its own safety. We need to ensure the protection of Israel.
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Mark
7:54 am
Apr 17, 2012
I only want to add that this “letter” was perfect. It doesn’t try to put down the people it was addressed to or put down their ideas, purpose or intentions. It only suggests that they would have met with more success in directing their efforts in other areas, towards more worthwhile goals.
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Ed Frias
3:55 pm
Apr 17, 2012
How Arab propaganda works.
http://dakhane.wordpress.com/2012/04/12/israel-did-it/
“Israel did it!”
Omar Dakhane Blog
April 13, 2012
This is the quickest and easiest answer you will always get in the Arab world when asking the reason any problem happens to them. Who created poverty in the Arab world? Israel. Who caused diseases to spread in the Arab world? Israel. Who created natural disasters in the Arab world? Well, it’s nature but Israel certainly had something to do with it.
By blaming Israel for everything wrong, the Arabs feel more relaxed about their lives, since it’s not their problem anymore and they don’t have to do anything about it, except blame Israel for “causing” it.
In some Arab countries, you can question anything except faith and conspiracy theories related to Israel and the Jews, and this comes mainly from the anti-Semitic idea that Jews are always conspiring against the Muslim and Arab world, an idea proven false many times.
This idea goes on against the United States as well. Some Arab countries won’t publicly call the United States the “Great Satan” like Iran does, but they do teach this ideology to their kids in school and they build their whole educational system to revolve around the idea of blaming others.
This is why we have generations of Arab youth who aren’t angry at their parents or at themselves for not doing anything to improve their lives and societies. Instead, they are angry at the United States and Israel and blame these two countries for almost every problem on earth, and to them, that’s not an opinion, that’s a fact.
Blaming others for your own faults means that you will never be able to fix them, especially when you play the blame game for hundreds of years without ever even trying to fix anything. It’s always easy to accuse others as the cause of your own problems, but that won’t make them go away. Wearing the label of victim is glorified in the Arab world, where everyone is crying morning and evening on how the rest of the world isn’t fair to us, while forgetting – or ignoring – the real reasons for why the rest of the world is moving forward, and we keep crawling backward
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Flotilla Aérea Falla al despegar « Ramrock's Blog
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Apr 17, 2012
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David Campos
12:27 am
Apr 18, 2012
Bravo for Israel. The enemies are always going to be defeated
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Flotilla Aérea Falla al despegar « Unidos x Israel
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orbitar
5:45 am
Apr 19, 2012
Today is Yom Hashoah. I am a Holocaust survivor. I see the “activists” as forerunner similar if not identical to the aim of the Nazis who were destroying the Jews of Europe. These confused “activists” are trying now to destroy Jewish people and their Homeland. If they lived during the Holocaust they would be dressed in uniforms of Hitlerjugend, Death camp prison guards, SA men or even the SS who had identical objectives – to wipe out Jews from the surface of this planet. Bravo Israel for not letting them to hurt you and hurt all of us.
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Yona
10:16 am
Apr 19, 2012
Yes, they are a bad lot, I have had some serious rows with some of them, and lost some friends. But, coming from an anti-nazi European family, I feel entitled to ask of you: Please do not compare foolish, ignorant youths to the absolute evil of the nazis, which is simply uncomparable and unique in history.
Please accept my heartfelt respect and sympathy.
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ruth
6:15 pm
Apr 19, 2012
yona
young and foolish is part of youth and growing up – we expect young people to make these kind of mistakes. joining up with murderers and those who want to kill jews and wipe us of the face of the earth is not in this category.
they know what they are doing, they are not confused,naive, blah blah blah. they know what they are doing.
so i put them in the category of those who go out to harm and kill with intent. call them any name you want but they know what they do.
we really have to stop pretending that they dont get it. they get it. we dont get it. wake up folks we are being fooled by pc lies daily
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ruth
6:17 pm
Apr 19, 2012
shalom
thank you for what you said. it was exactly totally correct. same hatred, same intent and same outcome
we are here in israel making sure that the jews will live forever and those who died are remembered. never forgive and never forget
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Ellen Lindemans
7:15 pm
Apr 19, 2012
You are right Obitar, this are other people with the same evil spirit and it’s the spirit all over Europe too and you are right, when possible they would be in uniform too. In Netherland Molims can free spit on Jews and say anything they want. But no, we can’t say what we want about moslim behavior.THat’s for sure. The whole molims issue is ignored by all govenments and I can’t see why since it’s horible to live with that people in the city’s for Jews, Gay people, and now christians.In fact we are the unbelievers for moslims and they can from the religion do what they want with us..For me is the Islam not the religion of peace at all, I read the Koran,nothing peaceful at all. So we know what to expect.And I am glad that Israel was so smart to let all the activists at home or in prison.Well done!Why? There are no peaceful activist anymore who want to demonstrate in Israel.It’s all about hating Jews and the country and to be pro Palestine.Why? Don’s ask me.I know better..
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Yona
8:47 pm
Apr 19, 2012
You may be right, after all, Orbitar. Who am I to teach you lessons.
I renew my respect and sympathy.
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