Weekly Question: How Should the Media Correct the Public Record Now that Judge Goldstone Has Reconsidered the Goldstone Report?
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April 3, 2011
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Nathan Zafran
1:20 am
Apr 04, 2011
Forget it! The anti-Israeli bias is there, and that’s it. Note the anti-Israeli/semitic media is totally biassed, phony, false and above all extremely unrepentant. They are liars, cowards and sanctimonious defilers of their own proffesion. Goldstone’s “confession” will not bring about a change in their attitude towards Israel. The biassed press will continue its wicked ways, Goldstone or not.
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Ethan
1:35 am
Apr 04, 2011
First, we will be naive to think that the media (more than 80% being left wing and Israel bashers) will do anything to correct the record. They might drop a line here or there to mention that Glodstone changed his mind but they will frame it in such a way that the reason Goldstone did not get it right the first time was because Israel refused to cooperate with him and his team. Get the gist – always Israel’s fault. A family of 5 gets slaughtered and the media tells us that this is the price of occupation. So don’t hold your breath.
The only way to fix it is to have a short note written by people like Honest Resporting and make it viral on the internet – chain emails.
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steve
1:38 am
Apr 04, 2011
They all owe a massive apology to Israel, and especially to the IDF. They should be ashamed of the pro-islam nazi stance they have taken, and apologise for misleading the world with their lies. But, they won’t, because they are controlled by high-powered leftist governments and are the voice of these evil destructive rulers.
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BUTSeriously
1:55 am
Apr 04, 2011
Yes, HR is a sacred enterprise. But the truth cannot be relevent unless there is first a lie to be corrected. In Israel’s case, the cherished lie beats a disdained truth. This is because they totally depend on the lie standing, or else they must pay too great a price if the liers have to acknowkedge Israel’s truth – a domino affects knocks them into an abyss of everything they cherish. It is extremely hard for them to accept this. Ultimately, Jews are not the victims here.
When Christians remain silent of Muslims calling the Jewish temple site a Zionist myth, they are not attacking Jews but Christians themsleves. While the Jews survived without a temple and Jerusalem – can a Christian survive when the Gospels, which claims one Jesus visited this temple – be deemed a myth? Understand that Jews are in the middle of a 2000 year insanity – jokers to the left and clown to the right. There is nothing more dangerous than holding the cards of truth – you become everyone’s target. We were told of this bondage before Israel was born, before Israel could even commit any sins – to the first Jew, Abraham, before he had a son named Isaac.
The greatest post-W.W.II crime was the corruption of the Balfour. And it says:
“I SHALL MAKE JERUSALEM AS A BURDEN UNTO THE NATIONS”
Vindicated or not – Eurostan is happening and Muslims have become the least productive humans on the planet!?
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Marilyn Smith
10:56 am
Apr 04, 2011
Many Christians do not remain silent – hence the invasion of Jerusalem every year for the Feast of Tabernacles organised by the International Christian Embassy in Jerusalem (the only embassy left in Jerusalem, I think). As Prime Minister Netanyahu said in his recorded address last year – “first you came in your hundreds, now you come in your thousands”. These pilgrims are in addition to the thousands that visit Israel every year, throughout the year. No, we are not silent, trouble is, the anti-religious media are not listening to us, either!
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Steve4peace
2:48 am
Apr 04, 2011
“Israel commits genocide” is news that feeds the ravenous and bloodthirsty appetites of anti-Zionists and Jew-haters alike and anything that contradicts that belief sucks the very reason for being out of the haters and it will be refuted or ignored.
The world has not shown any real love for Israel since at least 1967 and tearing up one report in the 44 years since will not change that. They have viewed the Palestinians as the oppressed underdogs long before Goldstone ever betrayed Israel and the Jewish people and they will still view the Palestinians as the oppressed underdogs long after Goldstone has betrayed them. The only people who will derive anything positive out of Goldstone today are those lucky enough to partake in the public hanging of this puny man by his puny testicles.
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TorahJew
2:52 am
Apr 04, 2011
Thank you HR for the essential service you are rendering. I try to respond to all alerts. That being said allow me to voice a new (although not novel) idea. Hamas, Goldstone, the UN, Barak Obama, Fatah, Al-Qaeda, BBC, the Guardian, Gaza flotilla raid, etc. they are but a side show. The real action is something within our own control. And that is our faithfulness to our tradition. You need to look at the situation from G-d’s perspective. He has expectations from us, they are know to us for over 3300 years. Despite all claims to the contrary, nothing has changed in G-d’s expectations for us to keep His Torah. It follows then that when Jews don’t keep the Torah, G-d sends “reminders” to us and the world that He is in control. G-d has infinte patience but eventually decides to act as if He were impatient. This sense of interaction between G-d and the Jewish people is not a result of “Jewish guilt”, masochism, fanaticism or any other “-ism”. It is the result of the unbreakable bond that was created between G-d and us at Mount Sinai when the Torah was given. Many Jewish readers will feel appalled at my position, I know. But I am sure you all realize that your opposition to my hypothesis is without certainty. You sense there might be some truth to it. I encourage you to be objective and not dismiss this out of hand. Explore the traditions that your ancestors, not so many generations ago, kept lovingly and unscrupulously. If we really feel for the Jewish people, shouldn’t we try to do everything we can think of? It is like alternative medicine; there is no scientific proof it works but a lot of people claim it does. Why not give Torah a try?
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BUTSeriously
2:56 am
Apr 04, 2011
The Goldstone lie was very good for Israel. Now, any such report by the UN, and supported by anti-Israel media, will have to face their claims being most probably false. It will not cease their lies, but it will make them look more foolish and they will have to cross many thresholds to make sure of what they say. They will no doubt hate Israel even more. Israel will be able to bring up the false Goldstine report at all occassions.
Israel has won. Again. Let’s not forget Israel is holding the most cherished real estate in the universe, one without oil and so small it can hardly be seen on the map. Consider the loss and shame for Israel’s enemies – it makes everything they have, in their eyes, as irrelevent.
Israel prevails by the errors of her enemies.
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Isidoro Zaidman
3:23 am
Apr 04, 2011
It is going to be difficult for great changes to occur, never the less it is important that he some how made teshuva. Israel has to realize that in spite of everything that happens it has a place in the world, and somehow has to live and hopefully thrive in it.
Big mistakes have been made in the public relations area, hazbarah has been a failure and needs mergency therapy. Jews are good at finding solutions and that failure has to be solved.
There is no doubt that times are loaded with problems, and let us not forget that such times need unity among the people, and we must remember that we are “Am Ejad” and this is the way we must behave, but that behavior must be bred and stimulated and every Jew is responsible.
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Naftali Spector
4:25 am
Apr 04, 2011
Unfortunately, the damage has been done. It is the same as the Al Dura case where the claims that Israeli killed an Arab child were proven false. The media should publicize Goldstone’s retraction of his report but the probably won’t.
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Another Joshua
7:28 am
Apr 04, 2011
I recall a debate held at Brandeis University between Dore Gold and Richard Goldstone (it’s on YT) in November 2009 shortly after the report came out. Gold un-peeled the report referring to evidence that Goldstone claimed he had been unaware of, despite many of us who follow HR having been referred to many clips on YT disclosing the truth behind a number of missions taken by the IDF, exposing abuse of children by Hamas etc. To say today, that he only NOW just realises that the report contains inaccuracies is disingenuous. He knew at the time that he had written a biased report and I ask myself why he chooses to raise it again today when he had all this time. And even then he blames Israel for not participating.In other words he blames the victim again! He is not a nice person.
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BUTSeriously
9:03 am
Apr 04, 2011
There can be no doubt Goldstone’s retraction is bogus based on his claims of naivety. – all Jews and many non-Jews saw enough evidence to make his original conclusion a sell-out for 5 minutes of fame.
The problem still lies with the anti-Israel media. If protest marches are made outside these media and journalists’ homes, and also perhaps initiating court actions, eventually, it will pave the way for international tribunals who make media and journalists licensed as with doctors and lawyers, and employ harsh judgements for those who abuse their positions in this most important sector. Europe and the Left are the most notorious; the Islamic media is not even relevent and a lost case. Media terrrism can be worse than Islamic terrorism, and should be seen as the # 1 enemy. Israel should bar these media and create a list of them beside terrorist names. The BBC and the Guardian should have long been outlawed.
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Martina Peiper
9:17 am
Apr 04, 2011
As in so many situations in life we cannot control the “other” side, hence the islamic/arabic media. What we CAn do is have an effective media campaign of our own. We must use this retraction to the best of our abilities. If Goldstone is seen as somebody people listen to, lets USE IT!!! Now that he has come out on our side, however belatedly and misguided, let him speak on our behalf to the media and prove his new point of view! Personally I would wine and dine him IF it helped my cause! You think the extremists who spin the evidence to their, the arab advantage give one hoot about who they like or think is good and proper? Use it and loose it when appropriate. Call all reporters who wrote elaborately about the initial Goldstone findings and get them to wuote Goldstone once more! Do the same with the UN. Get somebody like Dan Gillerman to speak for Israel, this man is a much underused capacity!
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BUTSeriously
9:43 am
Apr 04, 2011
Re. “European Jewish Leaders Demand EU Atonement for Goldstone Report” [Arutz].
It is now upto Goldstone to demand this of the UN. IMHO, Jews must bombard him to do so, and collect signatories of prominent figures who also ask this of him. Goldstone must officially announce to the UN he retracts his judgement, and give his reasons to the UN directly. Perhaps HR should organise such a campaign, which will be a tremendous coup for it.
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Steve Mann
11:22 am
Apr 04, 2011
If they have the tenacity to go against the grain of appeasing the Arab and Muslim world- They should insist – that all such reports be morally honest- based on knowledge and not politics.
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Albert Abrahams
1:45 pm
Apr 04, 2011
when you spoke at Hebew U.were given much respect .now to try to minumies the great qnd unfair damage you did and are still doing to the Jewish state of Israel you must defend her ful time until your last ! I was mistaken is far far far from what DAMAGE YOU DID!
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David Blank
2:44 pm
Apr 04, 2011
Goldstone, like the rest of the world, for the most part, can not get past that Jews are involved in anything GOOD.
We have to find a better way for Israel to present itself to the world.
Our present PR is absolutely terrible.
Once the press gets its warped hands on a story, it is too late.
Goldstone, UN, AP, CP, do not care if they are wrong,
Israel must fight back with Good press not bad actions.
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BUTSeriously
3:12 pm
Apr 04, 2011
The bad press must be used as a beneficial tool, because it cannot be stopped. This means we must be happy when we see false charges, instead of wailing for no benefit. The wailing only gives them a sense of power they are winning. If we dig deeper into the sources of the attacks, we can find loads of criminal activity, corruption, payola and other such underlying deeds. After all, who is perpetrating these charges and to whom?
An example. The Le Penn french group is very antisemitic, working for the ousting of Jews. That is fine, they have the right to pursue this. But why not get to them to allow the Jews to leave, for which they have to allow a place for the Jews to go to. This requires assisting Israel to absorb the Jews from Europe, so Le Penn must work against the Balfour’s corruption, and the serial two state demands pursued today: such actions will only make more Jews land in Europe. This can lso be applied to the BBC.
After all, Jews did not land in Europe 2000 years ago because they wanted a club med type holiday. How can Europe decry Jews being there – when Europe forcefully brought them there? The other factor applying is, if Europe supports the Islamic Nazi demands to destroy Israel, they will by default legitimise the same against Europe. The reason Muslims are overwhelming Europe today is Europe’s legitimising the Arab actions against the Jews at the UN, which gave them a legitimacy which is not hard for Europe to stem anymore. Europe is being attacked by the same weapons they planned for the Jews. Frank N. Stein made a U-turn.
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Harry Brand
3:12 pm
Apr 04, 2011
Gaddafi, as a member of the UN Council which appointed the Goldstone team, has confirmed the farse of the whole affair.
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Monty Bloom
3:12 pm
Apr 04, 2011
THE MEDIA SHOULD GIVE THE SAME PROMINENSE TO THE “NEAR” RETRACTION AS THEY DID TO THE ORIGINAL REPORT
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Harry Greenblatt
6:52 pm
Apr 04, 2011
My mother passed away more than 40 yeras ago. Her comments about Judege Goldstone
would be “EVEN HIS LIPS ARE CROOKED, HOW CAN YOU EXPECT ANY TRUTH TO COME OUT OF IT?
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IJ.
8:00 pm
Apr 04, 2011
All of Goldstone’s mea cupla cannot put Humpty Dumpty together again. There is a special place in hell for Judge Goldstone.
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Joyce Goldstone
8:11 pm
Apr 04, 2011
I am in the horrible position of bearing the same surname as the “Detestable Goldstone”.
What a way to receive “Fame” or rather “INFAMY”.
Can he not be disbarred from the Jewish Faith??
Surely being born a Jew does not entitle one to belong forever, when he has brought such shame upon the Nation.,
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