Weekly Question: With Syria continuing its crackdown, should the Arab League and the West intervene militarily without UN backing?
Please leave a comment below to let us know what you think.
February 6, 2012
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jeb stuart
6:27 pm
Feb 06, 2012
The democrats made Bush jump hoops to get UN approval to make war on Iraq a country that was awash in blood the result of hussein’s Baathist party. Hussein was executed with is top people, but we never learned the lessons and the radical left in tis country still holds the war was entirley about unfound WMD’s and Oil. I can not follow teir nbarrative as it applies here. assad has killed a few thousand citizens to retain power, hussein killed hundreds of thousands of his own citizens and the leadership in power in this country can not admit to Hussein’s crimes. President Obama compared Iraq and Afghanistan to Vietnam when he was a Senator. I think it would be a bad precedent to allow this President to skip over the UN, he already skipped over congress to divert air assets from Afghanmistan during a bloodiest month of war in the ten years we have been there and no one is questioning that action. We are learning that our intentions to help new “democracies” in Libya and Egypt has been a facde enabling Islamist teocratic one-deimensional government that is just as likely to follow the path of Jihad in it’s oppression of minorities. This President may be the victim of his own identity and certainly overeaches when he has not only voided the War Resolution of 1973 that was devised from sinking America into another Vietnam. the man is too full of self-contradictions and our government is so corpulent it demands no explanation. It is dangerous for America to follow Obama down this path. Russia has been training Syrians, and China also will support Assad. Without the UN attacking syria could be even more dangerous than destroying illegal Iranian nuclear facilites.
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Stan Lee
10:04 pm
Feb 06, 2012
Let’s see the Arab League take on the Syrian regime. They seem to find ways to make lots of noise when they want to.The West should stay out of it.
It’s time for the Arabs, who’ve been everyone’s problem child and will make deals with anyone regardless of political theology, to stop complaining and to take the part of the oppressed Syrian people.
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Harry Grunstein
6:44 pm
Feb 06, 2012
If Obama is smart, he will allow those Muslim terror mongers to destroy each other.
As long as they are at war with their own they will not harm Israel.
Let our enemies kill each other and we will be free.
Harry Grunstein
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Stan Lee
10:11 pm
Feb 06, 2012
Don’t count on Obama, he can’t make a decision unless his reelection committee tells him to.
Any of you who aren’t Americans seem to think Obama is a leader. If “leading from the rear” is leadership, then he’s a “leader.”
Russian and Chinese reaction to him? They’re doubled-up in laughter!
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yehuda
6:15 pm
Feb 08, 2012
Harry,be nice.May Allah give both sides their wish to become martyred and have 72 virgins.
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david C
6:59 pm
Feb 06, 2012
Isarel should help the oppspition in siria and maybe make a friend with the new governenet naive but who knows, as harry says maybe is better to let them kill each other and maybe help then to spread to other prehistoric countries
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steve mann
7:19 pm
Feb 06, 2012
Dose it make any difference? These countries were fed a diet of Theoretical/political dictatorship for hundreds of years. They know nothing else but living under one form of dictatorship or another-
However which way is more beneficial to Israel? Well the Egyptian model at this time seems negative and so dose the Libyan outcome-
It seems that when civil unrest breaks out in these countries the populous happily votes in something akin to the Muslim Brotherhood. This as we see in Gaza is worse than the last type of regime.
So should anyone intervene.? Being their own worst enemy- who cares.
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Joel
7:37 pm
Feb 06, 2012
No. Intervention should be applied only by other Arab nations. They all have armies and sophisticated weaponry thanks to the West. And they have the overflowing coffers to afford such a venture. The West, because of Russia and China, should steer clear because as we all know, the Islamists love nothing more than to define our participation as assaults against Islam, and not as a noble cause to depose a tyrant. The Syrian population unfortunately needs to be liberated by their own brethren.
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Les Le Gear
9:35 pm
Feb 06, 2012
The way I feel, just about all arabs are my enemy. I’d like to see Syria implode. I hope they
destroy themselves. That would be best for Israel. JMO.
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Elliott Brennon
9:56 pm
Feb 06, 2012
The West should assist the Arab League if the latter group chooses to intervene militarily. It is an Arab issue and intervention by the West directly will contribute to the problem and not the solution in my opinion. At the same time bringing about Assad’s ouster would serve Western interests well, excluding the Russians.
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Stan Lee
10:27 pm
Feb 06, 2012
The only western assistance should be limited to military supplies to a proper Syrian rebel leadership.
Caution: Notice what happened to military hardware supplied to Libyan rebels. When the fighting stopped and Ghadafi was killed, the Libyan rebel military hardware ended up in Gaza.
No matter what Arabs agree to, after they receive what they need, they do as they please.
Obama practically brought Mubarak down by speaking against the Egyptial leader as “Obama, the U.S. President.”
It didn’t matter to Obama that Mubarak could have been the best overall choice to “keep the lid on” that part of the Middle East. Obama gave little to no thought about sacrificing Mubarak because he saw notoriety and political advantage for himself, not necessarily Egypt or peace in the M.E.
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Pastor Ortiz
9:37 pm
Mar 06, 2012
Again, it seems to me, arguers tend to be using humanly thoughts, why is so difficult to put aside The TORAH. I will quote Psalms 2:1-4 “Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against His Anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. HE that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision.”
There is coming a day of reckoning for Obama, Putin, Assad, Ahmadinejad, China’s leaders, King Faisal, Great Britain’s leaders, Chavez, Castro, all arabs leaders and so on. Just like already there has been a day when ALL enemies of ISRAEL had their day in front of THE LORD OF ISRAEL he time will come. THE TORAH is clear and THE LORD JESUS said: “Heavens and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.” Take heed and listen to THE TORAH.
Please, I beg you read and meditate on your HOLY BOOK, not what men say, but what the only true LORD GOD, the LORD GOD of Abraham, Issac and Jacob (Israel) saith!!!!!!!!!!
I love the ISRAEL of GOD…..Genesis 12:3 “And I will bless them that bless thee; and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all the families of the earth be blessed.”
America THE LORD GOD of Israel blessed you when Israel had your friendship and protection, listen, not any more, GOD punishment is real. England THE LORD GOD of Israel blessed you when you were a blessing to Israel, not any more, GOD punishment has been real to you also.
Russia hear what the TORAH saith: Ezekiel 38:3 “And say, Thus saith the LORD GOD
; Behold, I AM against thee, O Gog,” HE means you Russia, and just like Germany suffered and is still suffering, you will also. AMEN
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Michael
5:39 am
Feb 07, 2012
The United Nations has been high-jacked long ago by an anti West and anti Israel voting block that involved Arab nations and some communist/socialist nations. Cuba was very instrumental in this block. What we ended up with is a lot of votes coming from polarized 3rd world 3rd rate two-bit dictators thumping their chests. The United Nations is not even close to what it was meant to be.
However, Israel seems to once again miss opportunity to turn things to her advantage with this Arab Spring and insistence over the years that Israel bend over to the large number of biased resolutions pointed at her. Israel needs to absolutely go back to the United Nations and DEMAND that they honour the original plan for the mandate of Palestine to create two nations.
The original plan included League of Nations words such as “unconditional” and “reconstituted Jewish homeland.” The United Nations picked up on this and agreed to it. We know what Britain did with Jordan but none the less, it is time to have the West Bank squatter Arabs (about 90 percent) go to Jordan. This argument is furthered by the fact Jordan continued to include in their economy these leftovers of past war for years until Jordan “officially” gave up any claims to that land (what they call West Bank).
Israel may have done a peace with Jordan that potentially took Jordan out of the equation but its time to put Jordan back in. Oslo is a failure as most predicted. In fact, much of what is happening was and remains consistent with PLO/PA/FATAH behavior and of course Arafat’s lies through his teeth handshake. The United Nations must comply.
As for Syria and what to do with or without the United Nations – consider the U.N. worthless until it starts to honour its original agreements/plans. Let the Arabs or whomever do as they please and just laugh that it was part of their block that vetoed actions (China and Russia). On a personal note, I think Russia and China were obvious in their reason for veto – they could be next to have a “spring” sprung on their morally bankrupt gov’ts.
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Pastor Ortiz
8:25 pm
Feb 09, 2012
Michael, you and Harvey are absolutely 100% rightly correct, historically, you both deserve to be commended, and please, never change your conviction. That being said, everybody including you tend to forget what the TORAH says. Any how, please, the conspiracy to create Gaza was to make sure there was a place smaller than ISRAEL so all arabs countries could accuse ISRAEL of abuses to the “Philistines” nevertheless I read the following: Ezekiel 25:15-17 “Thus saith THE LORD GOD; Because the Philistines have dealt by revenge and have taken vengeance with a despiteful heart, to destroy it for the old hatred; Therefore thus saith THE LORD GOD; Behold, I will stretch out MINE HAND upon the Philistines, and I will cut off the Cherethim, and destroy the remnant of the seacoast. And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes, and they shall know that I AM THE LORD, when I shall lay MY vengeance upon them.”
Soon this will come to pass just like it always has been fulfilled in the TORAH.
Philistines = Palestine
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Jack Shiffman
5:45 am
Feb 07, 2012
These Syrian Revolutionists felt they could topple the present government just by starting a revolution and others would come to their aid to finish their job. It seemed to have worked that way for Egypt and Lybia Well, it’s not working out. My advice – stay out of it!
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Harvey Rogers
8:54 am
Feb 07, 2012
The original Mandate by the League of Nations in 1922 plainly said the British were “Mandated to create a homeland for the Jewish People,” but evidently I don’t understand English because what it meant to Britain and the rest of the world was that Britain was to create a Muslim anti-Jewish state consisting of the Hashem Tribe from Saudi Arabia in 76% of the mandated territory. That is in fact what Britain did. The British never gave the Jewish people an inch of land, and in fact severely limited Jewish immigration so that when the rest of the world, the US included severly cut immigration ‘ Jews couldn’t escape from Europe and the Europeans were permitted to inflict horrible treatment. degradation and mass murder on unarmed and helpless Jews. The severe restriction on Jewish immigration, which needed to come from the the sea, while the Arabs could pour in from the adjoining Arab counties and say “there are more of us in the Mandate than you Jews.” The Mandate said nothing about creating a Muslim state anywhere within its boundaries. (Read the Mandate) Evidently I have a weird grasp of the English language because because hardly anyone else agreed of agrees with me. Practically no one quotes the actual Mandate and hardly anyone gives the words the same absolutely plain ,meaning, as I do.
In 1947 after a strenuous battle, the UN approved a patchwork of land that was less than 10%
of what was legally due to the Jewish People. Fortunately the unchanging Arab position that even on inch of land for the Jews was too much led five Arab armies to attempt in their own words to “throw the Jews into the sea and have the streets run red with Jewish Blood.
In fact no one advocating on behalf of the Arabs has a legitgimate position. The majority of the World, including too many Jews who label themselves “liberals” or “progressives’” side with the would be mass muderers. They talk about a peace process that can never end in peace because the Arabs don’t want peace with Israel, only its
The majority of theArabs even proclaim they want to complete the murder of all the Jews in the world. All of this is realistic undeniable reality.
Why won’t more people face the facts and stop talking about a peace that can never be. For the forseable future, whether they like it or not, Israel will need to defend itself against a hostile
Arab world and a large portion of the world including too many Jews. To keep talking about an unobtainable ideal of Peace makes no sense.
Harvey Rogers
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Stan Corbett
6:51 pm
Feb 07, 2012
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Over 5,000 Syrian people have been murdered by their own government.
Where are the world wide protests in the streets against the Syrian government that you often see against Israel and the U.S.? I guess that the protesters feel that they should leave Syria for the Syrians. That seems to be the attitude of China and Russia. As long as that is happening, they will leave Israel alone.
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steve mann
8:13 pm
Feb 07, 2012
You answer your own question- Its because its not Israel that their half hearted condemnation falls off Assads ears like schmalz dripping of a hot stove!
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Johan
12:50 pm
Feb 08, 2012
Let them mind their own business.
With the exception of (maybe) Tunesia the liberation from their dictators in the other countries didn’t bring democracy as some expected, or tried to suggest to the world.
It’s too simple to tell:”remove the dictator, have elections and continue as a democratic country.”
Actually with mr. Assad in power Israel didn’t have too much problems with Syria, big possibility this will change when/if mr. Assad has been removed.
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Mike lampard
1:02 pm
Feb 15, 2012
The situation in Syria is tragic for those many civilians suffering as a result of an oppressive regime. What is more tragic, however, is that the rebel regime, should it take power will turn out to be equally as oppressive as the Assad regime, so no one wins. The real tragedy is islam, which glorifies martyrdom, but when it comes to ‘mass martyrdom’ there is great suffering and everyone complains. Intervention or non-intervention is an irrelevant issue. There will be blood shed what we in the west do. At present, there isno hope for the Syrian population. They are trapped, and there is no hope for anyone else who would be there to assist the vulnerable. Syria has no respect for individuals, and no respect for anything outside Islam. That is their tragedy. It is an example of how Islam kills Arab and Syrian culture.
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Leonard Kahn
7:04 pm
Feb 15, 2012
The West should stay out of it. Let’s hope they both win . They deserve each other.
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Paul Damewood@yahoo.com
2:08 am
Feb 16, 2012
Better they butcher their own people then Israel and the west. I know this sould harsh, but it’s a fact.
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Rod
7:44 pm
Mar 06, 2012
Once again the British politicians showed themselves up as two-faced individuals who think that they are right whatever they do. Even their own electorate disagree with almost everything they do, generally speaking. Just look at the way that the UK is run and you can then appreciate why they treated the whole sorry saga of the Jewish homeland the way they did before independence!!!!!!!
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RICHARD EVANS
10:37 pm
Apr 16, 2012
I say the West should keep out of the arab spring all together. We do all the work, loosing life and money for the Islamics and when they are all settled in they will turn around and bite us on the B..
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