This is a guest post by Yochanan Visser of Missing Peace.
Last week the Dutch Christian daily ‘Trouw’ reached a new low when it published a vicious article about prenatal care in Israel entitled: “The chosen people have to be perfect”.
The writer, Ilse van Heusden, gave birth to a healthy baby boy while temporarily living in Israel.
She succeeded in portraying the prenatal care in Israel as a government instigated ‘military operation’ aimed at the production of babies as perfect as possible.
Apart from distortions and lies the article contained many accusations and insinuations which are reminiscent of classic anti-Semitic rants.
Requests
After the publication of the article we [Missing Peace] contacted ‘Trouw’ with a request to allow the publication of an op-ed in which we could debunk the false claims and lies in Van Heusden’s article.
‘Trouw’ did not even bother to respond, nor did the editors respond to a similar request by the Dutch branch of the Likud party.
Examples
Here is a prime example of the anti-Semitic content of the article:
Van Heusden:
To be pregnant in Israel is comparable to a military operation. Countless echos and blood tests should produce the perfect baby, nothing can be left to the luck of the draw. The state demands healthy babies and a lot of them too.
This was later followed by an outrageous lie about child allowances in Israel.
Van Heusden:
What makes things even more emotionally charged is the Israeli demand to produce many children. The state promotes the birth of children by supplying, among other things, a considerable child allowance.
To support these outrageous claims, she misused a quote made by former Minister of the Interior Shlomo Benizri in 2002. At the time Benizri declared: “the fear of losing Israel’s unique character obligates us to take action so as not to become a minority in our own country.”
Of course Van Heusden knew very well that Benizri was not talking about more Jewish babies, but about the influx of illegal immigrants and foreign workers.
She then suggested that the way Israel promotes having children is comparable to Arafat’s policy of using the womb of Palestinian women as a weapon.
Child allowance
It is of course a lie that Israel ‘demands’ many or ‘perfect’ babies. The state does not interfere in the decision to have children; that is something Israelis decide for themselves.
It is also a lie that the state promotes child birth with considerable child allowances.
In fact, since 2002, the Israeli government has considerably reduced the level of child allowances. This reduction rose to as high as 70% for a family with 8 children.
An average child now receives 35 Euros ($44) per month.
That is far below the Netherlands where child allowance is an average of 120 Euro ($152) per month for children born before 1995, and roughly 75 Euro ($95) for children born since then.
Furthermore, this summer thousands of Israelis demonstrated against the fact that parents themselves had to pay for daycare of their children up till the age of five years (The Israeli government recently reduced the age to three years).
Racist state
After writing that she was diagnosed with the Cytomegalovirus (CMV) virus and as a result was requested to conduct an additional test, Van Heusden exclaimed:
I was surprised about the spasmodic attitude about this test and the previous one. After all children are loved and honored here and Israel is a paradise when it comes to having children … But the flipside of the story is that having children is a demand and a discussion about that demand is not possible.
In actual fact, the prenatal program in Israel consists of recommendations only; a woman can refuse to conduct any test at all stages of pregnancy.
Van Heusden then compared the Israeli prenatal care to the Dutch system which she holds in high esteem:
Every time I had to undergo such a test (diabetes blood test) it caused distress. In the Netherlands my first pregnancy was without problems and it was dealt with by the obstetrician accordingly. I was boring but ‘boring was good’, explained the obstetrician.
I am healthy and not in the category of the Ashkenazi Jews … yet I had to experience twelve echo tests and four blood tests”.
Writing about the birth of her sonVan Heusden said:
finally we held this little baby boy in our arms that went through all those tests. When we admired his little fingers and toes we saw that one of his toes was too small. His personal revenge on the Israeli health system.
It is obvious that Van Heusden twisted everything that was done to safeguard her health and that of her child into an attempt to prove that Israel is a racist state which has a system to produce perfect babies.
Her claims are so outrageous that rebuttal seems beyond the pale.
Basic facts
However to understand the viciousness of the claims in her article it is nevertheless useful to provide some basic facts about Israeli prenatal care and the health system in general.
First of all, prenatal care in Israel is organized according to World Health Organization recommendations and is now on a higher level than that in the Netherlands.
Furthermore, Van Leusden was diagnosed with the CMV virus, which is the sole explanation for the many tests she had to undergo. In her article she admits that CMV can cause severe damage to the fetus.
Several Israeli women wrote us that on an average, 4 to 5 echo (ultrasound) tests are usual and not 12 as in the case of Van Leusden. Another woman from northern Israel claimed that her twins owed their lives to these echo tests.
Van Leusden’s criticism about the diabetes blood test is completely unjustified. This test – standard procedure in all modern medical systems – is designed to detect gestational diabetes; a disorder which can have serious and even fatal consequences for mother and child.
Mortality rate
Through this type of advanced prenatal care, Israel has managed over the last 35 years to reduce the infant mortality rate by almost 70% (24.6 per 1000 infants in 1973 compared to 3.8 per 1000 in 2008).
A similar figure was reached among the Arab population in Gaza and the West Bank (now the lowest in the entire Middle East: 11 per 1000 compared to 58 in 1968 and 61 in Iraq nowadays).
It is also the reason Israel now has a lower infant mortality rate than the Netherlands, which has one of the worst rates in Western Europe.
High quality care
The high quality of Israeli health care is in part due to prevention programs such as prenatal care. There are nationwide population examinations for breast and colon cancer. Blood tests are almost standard during visits to a doctor.
As a result people are living longer (81.6 years in Israel compared with an average of 79.5 in the OECD). Israel has one of the highest cancer survival rates in the world (84% breast cancer survival rate in 2009). The same applies to the survival rate after a stroke (CVA) and Myocardial Infarction.
All this was achieved with a health budget which is approximately 60% lower than in the Netherlands ($2,165 per person per year compared with $5144 in the Netherlands) and a number of hospital beds that is far below the OECD average (2 per 1000 compared with 3.5 in OECD countries).
Eugenics
Of course all of this data was also at Van Heusden’s disposal.
However, she chose to write a libelous article where care for an unborn child in Israel was deliberately presented as a military operation and as a political weapon born out racist motives.
When an Israeli caretaker finally had enough of her complaints about the excellent prenatal care in Israel and made a sarcastic joke about the need for ‘the chosen people to be perfect’, she used it to make her point.
One ‘Trouw’ reader summarized the article as follows:
Subtle article by the way, it even manages to bring good infant care in Israel in the vicinity of “eugenics” and thus comparing it to Nazism.
Indeed such articles can normally be found on the websites of white supremacists such as David Duke or on anti-Semitic sites such as Jew Watch.
The fact that a Dutch Christian mainstream paper published it should sound alarms in The Netherlands.
The paper should issue an apology and dissociate itself from writers like Ilse van Heusden.
Trouw’s article deserves to be exposed to a wider non-Dutch speaking audience. Here’s your chance to let Trouw know how appalling this is. Send your considered comments to Trouw’s editorial team – redactie@trouw.nl
UPDATE: Dutch Daily Deluged Over Anti-Semitic Article
Image: CC BY-SA HonestReporting.com, flickr/Bruce Berrien, flickr/juanktru.
86 Comments
If she has a problem with how Israel takes care of there people , tell her to pick her rear end up and go back to the Netherlands .
If she was so distraught over the detailed safety procedures in Israel, why didn’t she return to Holland to have her baby in the first place? That way she could have avoided all that undeserved ‘Jewish Doctor’ care for her in Israel!
Simply Amazing! Israel is like the Nazis because they have a high level of care. Its because Israel is such a moral country that people have to find ways to make the country look bad. This reminds me of an article from many years ago where a woman accused IDF soldiers of being racists because they dont rape palestinian women at checkpoints. Since its not possible for soldiers to behave in such a civilized manner it must mean that they are racists. See for yourself here:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/124674
“I have just read the account of Ms van Heusdens article via the Honest Reporting web page.
Whilst I find the article so full of venomous rhetoric- Which could compete with the 1930`s Der Shturmer .
I find it more incomprehensible as to why your editorial leadership refuses to answer or have any contact with Honest Reporting or the Dutch Likud party- So I ask why?
cc Honest reprting”
Do you think I will get an acknowledgement?!
A woman like this should go back to where she came from. She is not deservant of this kind of care.
I wouldnt want her as a mother. What kind of woman with any maternal instiinct doenst care about the condition of her unborn fetus.
First of all, we must STOP: Every time someone denounces us on anthing, we feel the obligation to need an explaination for why we are doing something right or wrong. The anti-Semite will always do this; and we as Jews always need to defend it. This is the answer to the ladies that want to have babies in israel or by a Jewish Doctors: have it somewhere else. Also to Van Heusden, may God’s gift of granting you a healthy child be taken from you by your destructive condemnation of God’s chosen location. Damn you!
“The state demands healthy babies and a lot of them too.”
I demand that the Trouw improve it’s admittance requirements for journalists.
Antisemitism and lack of cultural adaptation has a way to creep up to the surface in any way possible, even when it comes to OB/GYN issues.
The fact that the Trouw would not even allow a rebuttal Op-Ed says it all.
THE WRITER IS AS STUPID AS SHE IS IGNORANT….AND, EN PASSANT (AS FRENCH PEOPLE WOULD SAY!!) SHE IS ALSO DUTCH….WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED….YOU GOT AN ARTICLE WRITTEN BY A DUTCH ….THAT IS SOMEONE WHOSE PREDECESSORS
(around let’s say 1940.1945) WOULD TAKE PLEASURE IN KILLING JEWS….
OH WHY, OH WHY DO WE HAVE TO READ SUCH IMBECILES….WHY??
An Italian friend
Not surprising really. She has joined the new league of dishonest journalists that cannot find negative traits in Israel’s behaviour and therefore have to resort to twisting Israel’s positive attributes into somehow having some underlying hidden menace. Very similar to the hate-filled droppings offered by Deborah Orr, where the excruciating decision to allow 1,000 prisoners free for Gilad was twisted into an superior ‘chosen’ attitude by Israel.
The bottom line is that Israel treasure and value life. Both the lives of their citizens and the rest of humanity. That translates into a hugely one-sided prisoner swap and into extreme caution and care when dealing with patients.
Sounds like criminal hate-speech to me!
This woman is as vile and rabid an anti-Semite as her ancestors who, no doubt, took part in the extermniation process of the Jews of the Netherlands, whether directly or indirectly. She should be denied entry to not only Israel, but the USA as well. We have laws about spreading racial hatred here and we do not want someone like this entering this country.
A clear example of uninformed prejudice.
The wise and humanitarian superior care for all her people more cheaply is shown.
So according to this Lady, the conclusion that one may draw is that Israel’s High Standard of Health Care (not just to Jews but for all citizens) should be diminished and allow the incidence of infant mortality and birth defects to climb to the levels, not only to equal lesser nations (like Holland) but also to regress to the standards of the rest of the region.
In this way one may achieve two complementary objects, one can stop criticising Israel for being too caring of its citizens and the greater object can be, to prevent Jews from multiplying. Congratulations…….. Doctor Mengele would have been proud of you.
It pains me to see the depths that people like this shall sink in order to pervert the truth.
This allegation is beyond the pale. That and the fact that Trouw did not respond to an op-ed rebuttal speaks for itself. This Christian daily has an ax to grind.
I don’t see the point of stories like this.
Europe has had negative population growth for some time, is debt-ridden, and Jews are no longer subject to European insanity.
What is the point of highlighting European anti-semitism?
Let her, her country, and their Muslim populations quietly sink into oblivion.
Only a rabid antisemite would twist the extrarodinary care and concern exhibited by the medical professionals in Israel for the unborn into an example of racism. The apathy, lack of care and concern by her Dutch medical caregivers for an at-risk fetus should be the issue. Also, if she had a problem in Israel (with those Jew doctors), she should have gone back to the slime pot she came from.
“His personal revenge on the Israeli health system.” This twisted chick demonstrates an amazing degree of anomosity to the country in which she hose to have her child. She received superlative care and she can’t complain about that, so she twists it around and says the child’s birth defect is his way of have revenge on the country that hosted his birth. Just maybe, all the alarms that she was presented with before she gave birth were right and she chose to ignore them. Congratulations to her on the birth of a son and let’s all hope the child can survive his mother.
She needs to be deported or sent to Gaza.
Persona non grata. Perhaps she should give birth in a third world country next time.
Either this was a premeditated hatchet job, probably planned prior to her visit to Israel; or a publicity stunt by an amoral and mediocre journalist.
“His personal revenge on the Israeli health system.” This twisted chick demonstrates an amazing degree of anomosity to the country in which she chose to have her child. She received superlative care and she can’t complain about that, so she twists it around and says the child’s birth defect is his way of having revenge on the country that hosted his birth. Just maybe, all the alarms that she was presented with before she gave birth were right and she chose to ignore them. Congratulations to her on the birth of a son and let’s all hope the child can survive his mother.
First of all, the government based Tipat Chalav (well baby clinic) definitely interferes, but for having less children, not more. Especially if you are religious. From experience. The protein test is to “filter out” babies with defects, and so are the ultrasounds, and abortions are recommended at the drop of the hat, many of them random killing of unborn babies, which they treat as non human bits of tissue.. So she does have a point there. (They also convince you not to nurse.)
Secondly, any woman has the right to refuse tests in pregnancy, and we don’t take any ultrasounfds unless there is a possibility of a health issue for mom or baby, G-d forbid. Aside for regular blood tests and blood pressure, you are free to take or not take any test given. They may be a bit upset, so what! It’s your baby and your choice.
This woman’s writing seems to be a clear case of mental depression “post partem” with its attendant mental vacuum.
She needs a good Jewish psychiatrist to bring her back to life.
See another rebuttal (in Dutch) from the Likud of Holland:
http://likud.nl/2012/01/dagblad-trouw-vindt-het-verdacht-dat-israelische-ouders-gezonde-babys-willen/
I was shocked by the grade d health care to pregnant woman as opposed to the USA or Ukraine. No general checkup for the mom- only blood pressure and heartbeat. A Russian Jewish friend of mine specializes in pregnant women’s health aside for the gyn-ob part. No hospital or clinic in Israel ever heard of that special line of medicine, and she was left jobless. What a shock for her to learn about the non-care for mothers. If you don’t know better the gov. may even convince you that this is great care!!!!!
Don’t get me started on the subject please.
Lest we forget, this is the same newspaper that, in 1977, published a statement by PLO leader Zuheir Mohsen that, “The Palestinian people does not exist. ….” (!) Not much seems to have changed.
I grew up in The Netherlands where my parents read Trouw and listened to the Christian broadcasting network, the NCRV. Both my parents are long dead but if they had been around to read this anti-Semitic smut, they would have been completely incensed! In a microcosm Trouw has exposed, through this most vicious article, the essence of David P. Goldman’s thesis “How Civilizations Die…” (2011): a country that claims to tolerate everything, that stands for “everything,” stands for nothing. And in this moral vacuum, where truth is confused with “feelings” and absurd opinions, it is Islam that is most willing to march into that vacuum – and rightly so! This is not the Holland I knew and, even though El Al flies there, it will be a long time before I ever set foot again in Schiphol!
This ” woman” had nine months to experience the “atrocities” of the Israeli medical system. Yet, during that Somehow this reminds me of the Arab instigated boycott of Jewish products. We Jews say to the Arabs, go ahead and stop using all products that were developed using and Jewish talent. The entrie Arab population would be dead within a year!
Every time I read one of these “insightful” articles, it reminds me why the Jews are still around despite many organized porgroms to eliminate the Jews from the face of the earth. The dutch people are reaping what they have sowed, by allowing a large influx of Arab/Muslims. We all read the news and know exactly what the Arabs have contributed to the world… 9/11 will never be forgotten.
Mazal Tov,
Jeffrey Levine
Los Angeles, CA USA
Sorry, some of my commentary was accidentally deleted.
This crazy woman doesn’t realise how good she had it. Giving birth in Syria or Libya could’ve been pretty hellish.
Good Jewish psychiatrist??? I don’t think so!
She doesn’t deserve that. Rather, next time she’s about to give birth, she should NOT be accepted in any Jewish hospital, she should be sent over to Gaza, and let Hamas and Fatah provide her a health care of “free from Jewish political agenda”.
She might even will be given a “reward of Palestinian stile” to celebrate her birth giving: free burqua for her, and a free suicide belt custom-made for her new born.
Then she can go back to Netherland and praise the Palestinian medicare. LOL
The Jewish, especially the Israeli medicare is “too good” for her, eh? I suppose, the Hamas/Fatah provided Palestinian medicare would suit for her better. Then let her have it next time. She will figure it out soon enough… LOL
In Canada I had many tests that saved not just my life but the life of my baby. I spent a day having the gestational diabetes test, I had ultrasounds and CVS. None of it was pleasant, but all of it was necessary. I’m glad that since my experience there are even more tests, in Canada, Israel and other countries. It is even possible to perform life-saving surgery on an unborn fetus!
Van Leusden and the paper that published her rant ought to be ashamed of themselves.
I wonder if she is receiving and keeping the baby allowance?
Yeah, you’re right. “Monkey see, monkey do!”
What I meant is, it seems that the Dutch are bystanders of the political events; viewing who is “winning”, then side with those. So far, it seems to be the Muslim world, so they side with the terrorist nations.
If they really want to please them, they should replace the crosses on the roofs of their churches with a moon and a star, then they should start dressing their women in burqua then put their heads on the ground and flip up their butts, do this 4 times a day, facing toward Mekka. LOL
The Dutch deserve what comes on them! or do they really think that they can dance with the devil without consequences??? They can keep dreaming… LOL
Sure she takes it! …
Maybe not keeping it, but putting it in a “good cause”, such as “Palestinian Liberation”, the PLO. So, that way she can have a “clear conscience”. LOL
Well, she don’t know the difference of being moral or being moron.
But what else can be expected from lunatics? LOL
Well put. It’s truly incredible that top quality health care, careful to protect an at-risk mother
and play it safe, is presented as a sinister plot. But then, such is anti-semitism, and has been for centuries. Shame and disgrace to publish such vicious poison. And yes, this shameful woman should go to a hospital in Ramallah next time round. See how healthy that baby will be … or herself for that matter. And yes, she can then be free of Israeli ethnic cleansing.
This shows just how polarized the world has become. The extreme political Left, which used to support Israel, has now turned rabidly against it. Van Heusden is simply parroting the opinions of her colleagues, who exploit any possible opportunity to bash the Jewish state. Why? Because they have a near-religious obligation to support the “downtrodden.” Israel, with its democratic government, relatively strong economy, and support from the big, bad USA, no longer qualifies. The “Palestinians,” no matter what they do to themselves or their neighbors, do qualify. These far leftists are just as bad as the right-wing nuts here in the States, who say that corporations are people and that anything the government does is evil, unless it supports the evangelical agenda, of course. Reasonable people everywhere need to silence these cranks on both sides and relegate them back to the fringes of society where they belong.
Healthy babies are a bad thing because????
Shalom,
My name is Paul and I’m Dutch; the Dutch people, or the Dutch population, so you wish, is informed in a way socailist reporters and writers want them to read; half the truth or no truth at all. In Holland nobody knows what is happening in Israel, the onle thing they hear or read is that Israel attacks Palestine targets; as if Palestinian terrorists never attack any Israeli target, so they are falsly informed; don’t blame the Duth people, blame the reporters and take care of a carefully news-spreading all over the world. The average Dutch (man or woman) for sure is no anti-Semti, I can assure you (I’m not, that’s for sure)
If the leftist idiots would just stop for a minute and listen to themselves spew their tripe! I’m embarrassed for them …. cringe.
The article does not explain why she was living in Israel when she obviously detests it. Was she working for one of the NGO’s that hopes to hurt Israel, or as an anti -Israel Leftist European journalist? Is her husband/partner doing so? It is very easy for her to hop on a plane and be back in Holland. She could have gone home and lived with a parent or sibling to give birth in her mother country. What is the background story? Maybe her circumstances could shed some light on her bitterness. Maybe she took her bitterness from something else in her life and dumped it on the Israel health care system and people. It is not smart to treat people badly who are treating one, but they gave her good care anyway, another tribute to Israeli medical care. I hope she treats her baby better than she treated the adult personnel. She obviously plans to bring him up as an anti-Semite and to tell him that his toe is the result of Israel. She didn’t have to go to doctors. She could have stayed home. What a miserable person. Obviously she is not a perfect human being, as if that exists. She has worked on and perfected being imperfect.
Regarding another answer, I don’t think it was post- partum depression because she had it before giving birth. Maybe she is depressed period, and needs to spend her own money on a therapist.
Hi, I am also from Holland and I agree 100% with Paul den Hartog. It’s scary and depressing.
Dear sir,
I read this urticle and i didn’t found it to much anti israeli or anti-semitic. I read Much warse than this, and i fond it even a little bit funny. Why do every critic must provoke this kind of réaction?
I don’t see it this way and i don’t think this urtcle Is anti- semitic. I do think this woman should not stay In a country that she hates and i do think the israeli health system is some times
Dear sir,
I read this urticle and i didn’t found it to much anti israeli or anti-semitic. I read Much warse than this, and i fond it even a little bit funny. Why do every critic must provoke this kind of réaction?
I don’t see it this way and i don’t think this urtcle Is anti- semitic. I do think this woman should not stay In a country that she hates and i do think the israeli health system is some times enoying.
What Is shure
Dear sir,
I read this urticle and i didn’t found it to much anti israeli or anti-semitic. I read Much warse than this, and i fond it even a little bit funny. Why do every critic must provoke this kind of réaction?
I don’t see it this way and i don’t think this urtcle Is anti- semitic. I do think this woman should not stay In a country that she hates and i do think the israeli health system is some times enoying.
What Is shure Is that In Israel women like To make children and the system encourging it.
This Is good not only for the country’s needs, but Also for the happyness of the peuple. As it has been said
I’m pretty sure that the baby allowance is for Israeli citizens and/or legal permanent residents in Israel, not for people living there temporarily (whether legally or illegally).
I would agree with you if the only means of getting news was by reading a newspaper… but nowadays, in the global age and access to internet, that is just sloppy
Should this scurrilous article not turn out to be a manufactured event that never occurred, does it mean that this baby is an Israeli citizen? Why were they in Israel in the first place?
I know Holland and its people pretty well and have been there many times and known many Dutchmen. The early reports post WW11 that the Dutch protected their Jewish fellow citizens against the Nazis have over time required significant reevaluation. The information that has now become increasingly available is that there was a significant cadre among Hollands population who participated with relish and gusto in the Holocaust and I imagine the claimant of Israeli medical malfeasance is probably a descendant of some of those.
As a physician it is clear to me, that the alleged modalities and tests performed in the van Heusden pregnancy represent the quintessence of outstanding, world class medical care. The comment about thebaby’s toe is too ludicrous to even merit a response. This nasty ungrateful woman should perhaps try some third world environment for her next pregnancy.
because there is not enough hate in the world?
I think the use of holocaust terms; nazis, etc. should not be allowed.
where is the editor?
Do the people who handed in Anne Frank to be murdered and the highest rate of murdered jews
in the western Europe think it is a joking matter?
There is so much ignorance and hate , where is the editor? where is the protest?
write and protest
This is in very poor taste!
sincerly
sigal
I do agree that the writer is prejudiced towards Israeli medical system. However, medical care in Israel is very intervention based, most ante- natal appointments do call for routine ultrasounds, without which u may not be seen. And to give birth in a less medical environment, the only option is home birth with a private midwife. Unlike in Australia, where we have birth centers as part of hospital care. But all on all, if she so suffered she should have had the baby at home- only a 4 hr flight??
By ignoring all requests to comment, Van Heusden exposes herself as a racist bigot, who when given the chance to back up her biased statement, ” that having children is a demand and a discussion about that demand is not possible” shows she is not interested in an open discussion but is happy to remain a racist hypocrite!!!
I read the original quickly in machine translation to English so I may have missed something, but it came across to me as high (though unintended) praise of the Israeli medical system. We see a woman who prefers to give her child sloppy prenatal care being coerced into giving her child the best prenatal care that technology can offer. Her child is her responsibility, not her property.
………….”we saw that one of his toes was too small. His personal revenge on the Israeli health system.”
Seems to me that this mother would have been happier giving birth to an unhealthy child!
How odd when someone actually complains about a brilliant health system, where every care is taken that both mother and child are healthy!
I think Van Heusen has some deep psychological issues and resentments that have nothing to do with the subject at hand and venting with some meaningless “blah,blah,blah” is her way of dealing with it. How sad!
I am curious to know what the grown up baby will thinks when he reads the garbage she wrote to “celebrate” his small toe!
Poison like this coming out from the pen of a stupid jerk that probably needed a subject for puking out her vomits, it is that the following is more urgent than ever:
YOUNG/HEALTHY/STRONG JEWS AND SYMPATHIZERS OF THE WORLD: STOP WHINING OR CRITICIZING ISRAEL – NO GOVERNMENT WILL HELPS US. NO ANTISEMITES EVER CHANGE. LEAVE YOUR ROTTEN COUNTRIES AND GO TO ISRAEL TO STAY AND PROCREATE IN ABUNDANCE, NONSTOP. GO FIGHT FIERCELY AS NEVER BEFORE. EMPOWER ISRAEL TO REGAIN ITS RIGHTFULLY-WON TERRITORIES AND CONQUER MORE! ISRAEL NEEDS NOT ONLY TO EXIST BUT TO PREVAIL IN FULL FORCE, INCREASING POWER CONTINUALLY TO ASSURE NOT BEING ATTACKED BY ANY COUNTRY, EVER!!! ISRAEL NEEDS YOU AND YOU NEED ISRAEL AND IT’S ONLY FAIR THAT YOU, YOUNG AND HEALTHY YIDS, GO AND HELP IT NOW! HOW ELSE DID AMERICA BECOME GREAT?
THOSE THINKING WE CAN CHANGE EVIL… ARE NAIVE AT BEST (I CALL THEM DANGEROUS (USEFUL?) IDIOTS!!!)
Did the bitch pay for excellent services received from Israel’s system if not, why not ? Send her an invoice for the full costs. If she doesn’t pay sue her……
why o why did she ever go to israel in the first place when her heart and mind is full of hatered and antisemites.will any country or nation lift their little finger to help a tiny nation like israel and mind there is NO nation that is not in AWE OF THE THIS TINY NATION just ask the neighbours the mighty rich arabs these arabs just try and the dirty tricks but JESUS THE MIGHTY GOD KINGS OF KINGS THE RULER OF THIS WORLD THE MAKER OF HEAVEN AND EARTH IS WITH THAT TINY NATION ,So dont let these people who are against GOD chosen people worry you. BE STILL AND KNOW THAT I AM GOD THESE EGYPTIANS WHOM YOU SEEN TODAY WILL YOU SEE NO MORE.
I think I will emigrate to Israel ! Shame I am not Jewish . Oh my, doctors that care about you & your baby?
Well unthinkable here in NL of course, where you are lucky to come out of a hospital alive (I almost didn’t just a few years ago!) Also unfortunately, I had my eldest here, horrible. No pain killers, no nice nurses ( well, one- a student) and the other 2 children born when we were in the UK. BLISS. Care, love, concern. I burst into tears and they were worried something was wrong “No, I cried,you are all so nice to me” WIsh we had never had to return !( Hoping to leave when we can afford to )
‘Nuff said about Netherlands. Wonder if “Trouw” will publish my damming story about health-care here in The Netherlands.? That woman should be on her knees thanking Israel and God her son was born healthy, as most normal people do ! if they can’t find anything negative to publish about Israel then why not criticise the positive. ? Just goes to show how pitifully desperate they are .Crazy, mean-spirited and plain ignorant. Shame on “Trouw” (means “faithful” or “loyal” in English- does that not crack you up ?) not designating this rubbish to the trash can . I hope Israel never lets this woman back in. let her have her next baby in NL , that’ll teach her !
Ilse Van Heusden is een anti-semite of heeft een geestelijk probleem met Israelie’s
Allebei heel gevaarlijk.
Wat is haar probleem voor kinderbijslag in Israel? Nederland geeft kinderbijslag voor heel wat
meer jaaren dan Israel, en de kinderbijslag in Nederland is veel hooger dan in Israel is dat om
meer kinderen te produceren in Nederland?
Maar waarom is het ok voor Nederland maar niet voor Israel?
I have seen baby’s been born in Israel zonder al dat BS Ilse is reporting.
Hoe kont het dat de babies hebben een hogeren kans te blijven leven, dan zelfs in Nederland?
Zou het mogerlijk zijn dat de kliendere teen van Ilse’s baby kwam van een defect van haar of the man die haar zwanger maakte?
Door Ilse en zo veele anderen Nederlanders, die net als Ilse zijn heb ik 54 jaar geleeden
Nederland verlaaten.
En dat Trouw dit smerige artikle heeft geplaast laar zien dat zij niet veel beter zijn dan Ilse.
Sorry voor mijn Nederlands.
Jerry Meents.
jmeents3729@msn.com
Oh Indeed, Van Heusden is absolutely right – AT TIMES. Israel’s life saving efforts are planned – and executed – with military precission. We saw that two years ago when a devastating earthquake shook Port-au-Prince in Haiti. Within 48 hours the IDF airlifted to that remote spot, and set out to operate it, a military hospital in barely 48 hours. It came equipped with X-ray equipment and – I suppose, those detested US-machines as well, and started saving lives. Mind you, it personnel came prepared to to save new-borns as well and women in labour: From past experience it knew that a high proportion of women go prematurely into labour as a result of the stress that comes with a mass traumatic experience. The Israeli doctors and medical personnel had brought along elementary equipment to offer shelter for exactly the most vulnarable victims of the quake. the foetusses and their mothers. Thank you, ms. Van Heusden to point that out to the readers of Trouw!
I can sum up this article in 2 words: “Ungrateful Bitch!”
And people wonder why we do not like to give citizenship to non-Jews! Not only do they come to our country and use deception to try and convert the most vulnerable of our society, they turn out hateful reports like this. I would suggest that she go to a Muslim country and have a baby. If she survives~it would be interesting to hear her adoring praises…
I am a Dutch citizen and I like Israel!
The newspaper used to be a Christian newspaper, only they lost the bible or something because they are moving in to a humanistic view of the world. I am amshamed that our citizen are making such low quality and anti-israel articles.
I sent this to the editor:
Dear Ed,
I was shocked to learn of the article in your daily, that even turned Israel’s
magnificent and evidently enviable pre-natal care system into a reason to knock Israel!
As a lecturer at an Israeli college with many Jewish and Arab students, I would like to inform you that my female students, both Jews and Arabs, enjoy the knowledge that their babies have as high a chance as possible to be born healthy and that both Jews and Arabs (as indeed your reporter who I understand is neither Jew or Arab) have an equal opportunity to save their baby later in pregnancy if any danger signs are detected. I imagine your reporter does not consider Arab Muslims or Christians to be counted as part of the “Chosen People”, yet in the State of Israel, they are equal and receive the same medical treatment from A to Z.
How is your newspaper going to come to terms with that? By ignoring the information at best, I suppose ,or perhaps you’ll find a way of presenting it as another Jewish plot of some sort
I’d like to express my personal regret at the expertise and responsible care your reporter received that so affronted her sensibilities. I suppose that our doctors and nurses arrogantly assumed she also wanted as healthy a baby as possible, just like our Jewish, Moslem, Druze and Christian Israeli citizens
I am dismayed at the antisemitic attitude of this writer. However, it puts me in mind that mankind in general sort of leaves God out of the equation and leaves nothing up to Him in an effort to pre-empt every possible negative situation. In doing so we put ourselves in a kind of prison sometimes, it seems to me. The solution to one problem is always the beginning of another when it comes to the human race, and this is one reason in spite of all our ingenuity, we still need the One who, after all, created us. But having said that, after being blessed with three healthy children, whom I love dearly, I was always grateful for good prenatal care and post-natal care!
@Yael; ‘only a 4 hour flight’ exactly ! So I wrote this to her at the Trouw website , but she did not answer. Also I wrote, that according a report in the JP last year, a docter of the Kaplan hospital in Rehovot gave advice via e-mail to a doctor in.. Iran, who could then safe a pregnant Iranian woman.
You should know that in Holland there are many people getting a forum in the media just to blackmail Israel. Daily “Trouw” has such a forum, but at the same time they do not want to be remembered at the fact, that they gave the whole PLO topechelon a full page in the 1970’s, to promote the fact that ” Jordan is also Palestine”. Now nobody seems to remember that, because now they , the editors , must sing the opposite song in line with Palestinian Arab propaganda….
But also the best daily so far, NRC, is changing toward Israel bashing as does the public TV News program NOS Journaal. So, the best way to get more balanced information in general is for me to read ..German newspapers like FAZ, die Zeit ect .and to watch German TV like ARD, ZDF, WDR, ND, and Arte. They bring also enough info about Australia and the whole world, even about West-Papua.
Leonie: You hit the nail exactly ! But if you sent this reaction to the general e-mail adres redactietrouw.nl, it may not be answered, as they have special e-mail adresses for every section.
So, I sent an email of the whole article above inclusive the reactions, and especially mentioning yours, to: gezondheid@trouw.nl (health) , buitenland@trouw.nl (foreign countries), religiefilosofie@trouw.nl and podium@trouw.nl , hoping they will all start to talk to each other like : “Did you read, we at TROUW are associated with a smear-article, clearly blackmailing Israel”. And this, a few days before the 20th of january, the day at which 70 years ago the Wannsee Konferenz in Nazi-Berlin took place.
By the way, at the website http://www.israel21c.org one can find other information about Israel, not only politics, also about medical affairs.
Clearly, the woman is a base, malicious abject neo-Nazi, just like her Satanic “Der Stürmer” Christian paper in Holland. Our motto: NEVER AGAIN! I say: let these digsuting Hitlerian Nazis go to Hell and persih.
In the Netherlands the full mass media is anti jewish except maybe 1 news paper and they always depict muslims etc etc as victims … its insane and loads and loads of people here hate it … WE HATE IT. There is no journalism to be found overhere in this sad country, only 1 sided continual bashing no matter the type of gov. THis is the result of years and years of lefties that have foced all the problems we deal with upon us and also that is nowhere to be found in the mass media. I just hope the whole of the sad EU enslaved states people will wake up and that the people will take their countries back. 🙁 another sad story bout the pathetic state my once great country is in
Perhaps she would have been happier for her baby to be born during hitler’s regime where it was common practice to take the new born child and smash it’s head against a wall! – no pleasing some people!
I hope she chooses to have her next baby in Somalia. Since she is raising her children to be anti-Jewish martyrs, Somalia would be the ideal place to give birth
She and her child recieved probably the best medical care in the world and the same considered care as any Israeli or Arab living in Israel.That says more for the eithics of Judiasm than for the Christian anti semites any day. Europe is infused with the shame of its past and has not repented. Therefore its house is left empty and morally bankrupt. I think for a reality check her next child should be born in GAZA. She will see the high regard the Palestinians have for her and her Christian child.
Perhaps it’s time to for HR to encourage the publication’s readers to cancel subscriptions in a “Drop Trouw” campaign?
The printing of this article by Tronw shows what a rag this paper is.Look for your copy at the check out counter of your local Dutch super market in the tabloid section.
Forget the rantings of an irrational women. I’d like to know why Trouw published this anti-semitic article that manipulated a nurturing, sophisticated medical system to be perceived as a negative attribute.
Writing as a Christian who supports Israel, I am ashamed that Trouw lets itself be referred to as a ‘Christian’ publication. On several counts it has failed to be as perfect as perhaps thjey should be, not least in terms of the courtesy of a reply to Honest Reporting.
It is outrageous that a periodical called “Truth” would publish an article with so many lies and distortions. (“The Chosen People Have to Be Perfect”)
When can I expect to read an apology and a corrected version?
Lynne Bright
She’s COMPLAINING that she got excellent care? That’s beyond ridiculous. She’s so blatantly anti-Israel, it’s horrifying. First, she has a healthy pregnancy, and does not need extensive testing, so it must be due to the terrific care she got at home. Then she contracts a potentially serious virus, is given as much intervention as possible to assure a healthy child, and she BLAMES Israel for doing everything they could? Finally, she celebrates that her child has one toe that is too SMALL, and she calls it revenge? (Number one, that seems like such a stupid detail overall, thank heavens your baby is healthy! Two, why get your child involved in this? Three, that seems to imply the excellent service, and of course G-d’s help, that she received!) Take your spiteful little child (I mean, yourself), and leave. We’re sorry to have provided you with excellent care.
WTF?! As if she was held down against her will, and subjected to batteries of tests?
The woman is a disgrace to the normally sane Dutch ppl. She is an embarrassment tot the Holland.
“Finally, she celebrates that her child has one toe that is too SMALL, and she calls it revenge?”
She sounds like a muslim that would rather cut her nose to spite her face. Only those ppl could possibly rejoice in their own child’s deformity just to seek “revenge”.
That is beyond sick …
this woman was living temporarily in israel and benefited from the full care accorded to every israeli woman, and she is complaining about that? her article says more about her than about israel. strikes me she was looking for grounds to complain & criticise, and whatever happened she’d’ve found material for an anti-israel article. after all, there’s no pleasing some people.
I just sent Trouw a letter – hope you/Israel’ll get an apology after that?
No chance. We dit not get it either, we mailed them twice.
I received an email reply in Dutch- Still have not been able to translate it-
However they give that many links- I think to places to complain I gave up-
I do hope Ilse is not coming back to Israel and her passport has been stamped accordingly.
I do so hope she enjoys sex and travel.
What was this woman doing in Israel?
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