As Operation Pillar of Defense continues, here are the Top 5 Media Fails as HonestReporting inaugurates its Hall of Shame.
1. Jon Donnison, BBC
for retweeting a dramatic photo of two children wounded in war without making any effort to verify the photo’s authenticity.
Turns out the children were wounded in Syria and the photo first appeared Oct. 28.
He later apologized for the retweet…
but with the original retweet going out to more than 7,000 followers and receiving nearly 100 retweets of its own, the apology was too little too late to undo the damage.
2. BBC News
for refusing to acknowledge misleading its audience with fake footage of wounded Palestinians.
Almost as soon as Israel launched Operation Pillar of Defense, the Pallywood machine cranked into gear, creating fake images of Palestinians being evacuated after an Israeli strike. The footage appeared on BBC and CNN reports on the fighting.
CNN took steps after the fact to verify the footage with Reuters, which distributed it. And after failing to get a satisfactory answer, removed the footage and issued an apology.
The BBC, however, stood by the footage, claiming that the footage it ran was an edit from a longer reel. The footage that appeared on the site, however, bore all of trademarks of similar attempts to fake footage on the day of the Mohammed al-Dura incident.
3. Clayton Swisher, Al-Jazeera
for tweeting that Palestinian rocket attacks at Israeli civilians were legal under the laws of war.
In fact, if there is one aim to restricting what can and can’t be done during wartime, it is to protect the lives of civilians.
Swisher not only serves as an apologist for Hamas but also turns the concept of war crimes on its head.
It may be too much to expect journalists to accuse either side of war crimes. But to deny it is a step even beyond that.
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While I am an avid HR readers and supporter, I do not agree with your first pick Jon Donison. If someone apologizes for tweeting a wrong picture, you should thank them unless they do this repeatedly. So unless he is a repeat offender you should remove him from your posting.
What are the top 5 most even handed print or television sources?
I think the 4th- should be first. This was a complete setup involving the Egyptian President. The disgusting thing was that they blamed Israel for killing a child which they had deliberately killed in a terror act. I say deliberately because what could they use as a defence-” that they had aimed to kill another child and this one was killed by mistake”
Again I think that retweeting and then apologizing shouldnt really be on the list- who hasnt retweeted or posted a mistake on Facebook.
The last cartoon is satire. we might find it offensive but it is free speech. I think that the worthy site should concentrate on exposing errors of fact rather than opinions aired however distasteful.
How fast does light travel? Once the message has been sent, the damage has already been done .
Apologies are not read. How do you convince an anti-semite?
The media knows exactly what it has done.
Clayton Swisher “Doha-based investigative reporter with Al Jazeera” – he’s a dhimmi no further explanation needed.
Beverly Lyons,
I disagree with your note that HR should accept apologies. Since the damage has been done, no apology can reverse the damage cannot make up for any damage that his falls statement has made.
I doubt one could find five even-handed print or television sources on this subject in the English-speaking world.
I went to the various links to British stories on what is going on. Few barely support Israel’s right to defend itself, but are unhappy that Israel is actually doing something to defend itself. The rest claim that this was all instigated by Israel, going back to the ’67 war and some hinting 1948.
After all, what is the big deal about a few “home made” rockets “harmlessly” landing in Israel like a nat bothering you? Its those damn Zionists and the puppet US regime! Essentially, all the UK crazies, Jew hating anti-Semites just ooze out from under their protective rocks.
Racist bastards that they are…
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Why aren’t the Brits called war criminals, much as they call Israel?
For a few bombs and V1 and V2 rockets, Britain bombed Berlin and harmless Dresden to hell, then enlisted the Americans and others to help invade and occupy poor little Germany.
They just do see it.
Also, wasn’t it the Brits who gave 80% of the land it was administering on behalf of the League of Nations to create Trans-Jordan? Wasn’t this stealing land from the Jews, to whom the land was promised to be returned to?
Old saying: no whore like a British whore.
If you compare damage to civilian people between Israel and British/American troops in Afganisthan, you will be surprise how low are the civilian afected by Israel.There isn´t any army in the world who cares more about this, but even though it’s a war. Not to mention, Russia in Grozny, Siria, Turkeys, Libya ( with Nato suport; I’m not blaming Nato, but it’s war). The Chinese are very civilized as we have seen in Tibet and Tianamen Square.
The Brits (I’m Irish, but I live among then) have made mistakes. So have the Americans, the French, the Russians, and, above all, the Germans, who still have not paid in full for what they did in the 1930s and 1940s. ‘Poor little Germany’! Were you serious when you wrote that. You know perfectly well what Nazi Germany was like. Diminishing its very great evil is a thoroughly dishonest thing to do.
What I can’t understand is why British media is so much against Israel. Do you think the people have the same bias? I was wondering if it’s not because of the years 45/46/47 when the british were atack by the jewish militia? I went many times to england and I don’t feel such a bias. Could be more in the media, than in average population? Guardian and Independent are not serious, in fact, they are lyers with agenda.
“free speech” and “prejudice” are not mutually exclusive.
nobody is arguing that the guardian cannot express its views, but those views happen to be anti-semitic, and it’s perfectly fair (“free speech”) to call them as such.
der sturmer was also “just satire”.
Donnison is the latest member of the Twerps Union – chairman: Jeremy ‘Al’ Bowen – and wouldn’t get a job on any imparrtial news organisation, given his stupidy and bias. Wyre Davis is another who now can’t tell truth from fiction
Steve Bell has not for the first time deliberately fudged criticism of Israel with outright anti-Semitism, but what can anyone expect from the UK’s Der Sturmer (rhetorical question). Goebbels would be proud of them.
Despite the fog of war, all fair-minded journalists should know all about the dissembling of Pallywood, otherwise they aren’t worthy of the tag ‘journalist’.
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somehow, anti-semitism has been rehabilitated, and it’s now fashionable for the left to “criticize israel”. just like wearing a keffiah in support of “the poor oppressed palestinians”, it’s fash to bash israel.
the trouble is, a lot of those fashionable lefties work in the media, and distort the facts.
even if the bulk of the population doesn’t actively hate jews, they will eventually support the arabs, if they swallow enough “pallywood” bilge.
Heeeey Stephen…
The British definitely can’t forget that the Jews forced them out of Palestine in 1948, even though they had a longstanding agreement to leave (the Balfour Agreement) the area after huge loans from Jews to help fight WW1. When pressed on why they refused to leave in 1948, despite agreements in writing they admitted .(paraphrase)……”sometimes countries make promises they really don’t intend to keep….after all we were fighting a war at the time”……yeah and the rest of the world wasn’t???
The british should definitely clean up their anti-Semitic act!!!!
Its sarcasm. I have no pity for WWII Germany.
From what the Brits mostly write, so what if a few rockets land on Israel. No big deal. My point is that you can say the same thing regarding the bombing of London: by their thinking, Britain should never have reacted against Germany.
Its very much a “do as I say but not as I do” argument that they use against Israel.
Personally, since Israel will be condemned no matter what, isn’t it time Israel conducted warfare similar to how the US and UK did and still does? If a rocket is launched from a roof, that building is no more. Who knows, maybe the Gazians will turn on Hamas.
Edi,
It’s because until recently Israel had no oil. Now that they do, the Brits may change their tune. Also teh Brits have always had a peternalistic attitude toward the arabs having out Ibn Saud ito powewr and all that. As welll the level of arab/islamic immigration to Britain has been so large that they are probably afrid of their new immigrant population. Although from what I hear the average Brit(not the press) is getting fed up with the moslems. Ther’s actually more support for Israel out there than the press is willing to report.
Add Russia Today to your list, please. They have been spewing propaganda to discredit Israel.
The hatred of Jews went back centuries. The money raised for King Richard’s ransom was taxes imposed upon the Jews of London.
Well before that, a child was murdered in Lincoln county (Lincolnshire?) and a rumour began that it was done by the Jews, so Britain had its pogrom.
Before that, Jews were “Christ killers”, so there was a hatred.
Before that, long before that, the Roman occupiers had a thing about Jews. Just about everyone in the Empire had a friend or relative killed or injured during the wars with and occupation of Israel. So there was a hatred. It most likely became part of the culture in Britain.
There are a lot of contrived reasons from long before ’48.
Not forgetting they gave away 80% of that land they promised the Jews to the Hashem tribe-
Of course now known as Jordan!
Exactly, and then pushed that 40% of the remaining land be divided between the Arabs and Jews, further reducing Israel.
I keep wondering, how could Britain circumvent its obligations under the Mandate to give away land that it was responsible to hold and distribute as per the terms of the Mandate? The obligations of Britain by the League of Nations followed the Mandate via the UN, which assumed all obligations by the League of Nations.
One could easily argue that it was land stolen from the Jews by Britain and illegally given to the Arabs. You can’t give away something that doesn’t belong to you, even if you are the caretaker.
Forget about complianing directly to the BBC at the moment, the BBC in the UK are under the cosh. The BBC are in hot water over the Lord McAlpine report and about not verifying stories
also the Jimmy Savile enquiry is also taking a toll, this is a good time to complain about their bias.
So if you are serious my good people. If you want to get the BBC to change, complain to the following website this is the website for the UK Parliament’s commons select committee for culture, media, sport.
Personally if the BBC don’t repent over their bias etc, I would like them off the air, permanently!!!!
http://www.parliament.uk/cmscom.
Clayton Swisher years ago was shown to be a liar and an appeaser of the mass murderer Arafat.
Read this great article which showed what a liar Swisher is.
http://www.peacewithrealism.org/pdc/swisher.htm
Add Norway to your list.
History never forgets. History never forgives. The lies and terrorist tactics from Hamas will receive their just punishment. Allah, God, Hasheem; all three, found Hamas guilty of crimes against their own Humanity. Guilty of crimes against History. Gulity of killing inocent people covered under the name of their beliefs. They are watching and we too…
There was barely any problems in “Palestine” between the Arabs and the Jews until the Brits came. Throughout their empire, the British modus operandi has always been to divide and conquer, and the best way to divide is by stirring the shit, which the Brits are quite good at. If you want proof, just look at the history of their holdings in India, Africa, Far east, middle east…..etc. I have never understood how a self-respecting Jew, could ever call Britain a friend. An ally? Yes, at the best of times, and at the worst of times? It’s true nature: A backstabber. Long live the Queen (Elton John)
At the local bookstore, here in Toronto, I browsed through the highly influential Guardian paper, of London, the Saturday issue (biggest Guardian paper of the week). Not one but two photos of wounded Palestinian babies were shown. More important, the letters and Comment pieces are totally one-sided in favour of the Arabs/Palestinians. It was no different at the height of the suicide bombing campaign against Israelis, a few years ago: the letter page, which included petitions denouncing Israel by Jewish quislings, and opinion pieces were overwhelmingly anti-Israel.
Jacob….it’s absolutely disgusting….a country as “pleasant and beautiful” and seemingly fair minded as England should be loaded with soooooo much anti-Semitism and anti-Israeli activity?????
Add to the list the state subsidised leftist camp followers of the Australian ABC on lateline last night who interviewed 2 Arabs,without any person from the Israeli side to allow the rebuttal of the innuendo,distortion and outright lies presented by the Arabs
if israel stops short of anything less but complete surrender by hamas they lose.
There are an awful lot of negative comments here which group ‘The British’ all in the same boat and I believe you need to be very wrong in doing so.
Whilst the BBC, Guardian & other left lefty media outlets may be biased towards the so called plight of Gaza, the vast majority of the British public are behind Israel.
And please remember that it was the British Foreign Sec and the British Prime Minister who publicly gave Israel support whilst Obama was still trying to hide under his desk to avoid having to comment.
As I said, I and the vast majority of Britons support Israels right to defend itself. Remember that and don’t burn bridges.
Who wats their apologies after the harm done they should have checked and then reported so what kind of reporters are they they should be penalized /banned from reporting
My problem here is , by what you mean as “Caretaker” ?
al jazeera is pro hamas, their news are bordering more for gaza. they are pretty disrespectful of people they interview who are Israel representatives… I watched aljazeera’s news anchor darren jordan badgering a rep from Jerusalem, it was very unprofessional.
AS long as evidence exists, BBC, Guardian and other should be banned from IL, until recant and pay penalty. Reporters should be expelled with no right of return ever.
Jon Snow kicked off the UK’s Channel 4 news last night by saying ‘the war on Gaza goes on’. Never mind the Hamas rockets still raining down on Israel. Now you understand why these faux journalists are the enemy of us all. They are shameless, willing partners of the terrorists bent on bringing about the demise of our civilisation. The greatest tragedy is that by helping the Palestinians to perpetuate their victim status, they have done the greatest disservice to the very people they wish to help. God help us from people like Jon Snow, one of the the left-liberal do-gooders in the media who don’t like their self-righteous smugness being called into question.
Roger Radford
Former AP c
You may not and cannot notice that from a Muslim’s perspective (and who cares about it!) as well as that of an outsider, you are extremely biased, and that’s fine! You love your team and you cheer for it; We love our team and die for its cause. But let me ask you few questions: who gave Britain in the first place the right to give a land it didn’t and doesn’t own to another party? Is the UN biased against your beloved innocent entity when it declared certain settlements illegal under international law? I need not tell about many other instances where this Illegal colonialist excrescence is in breach of international law. Aren’t the zionists racists? Bottom line, enjoy your dream until we kick your asses out of OUR land.. sooner than you might think!
heeeeeeeey muslim….
you start out as if you were a calm intelligent person….then turn into a blubbering terrorist!!
the UN which you (a zillion odd arabs) people use as your own personal crying towel made the decision to divide the nation of Palestine into 2 parts in 1948. The Jews accepted …however your people ….a band of itinerant arabs from the surrounding countries who happened to be residing in that area at the time…refused ….and called on all your brothers to declare war on the new Israeli’s…..but guess who kicked whose asses off their land…hmmm….and you’re just too dumb to know when you’ve lost!!!!……..PS…why you reading a Jewish site…bored with al’sjezero?
I doubt that this A.Muslim will even be back to see any rebuttal’s.
However yesterday 5 Gazans were publicly executed , being thrown out of a van and shot. This story carries photos of the event – The executioners were on motorbikes and one body dragged down the street, tied to the cycle- The baying crowd spat on the bodies whilst using obscenities-
They were accused of spying for Israel- did they have a trial? -NO!
This is not a new thing in Gaza- Will the BBC publish it- I hope so-
Will the UN Human rights commission take it up- I hope so-
Somehow I doubt either will-
And A Muslim has the arrogance to have a go at Israel!
…..a muslim’s too busy to write….a bomb just went off on a bus in Tel Aviv…and they’re celebrating in Gaza….obviously the bus was a military target which a muslim hit with a precision bomb!!!!!
…by the way why are all the european peace nicks in gaza when syria is murdering 1000’s of its own daily…..guess that’s OK for a muslim & friends….long as it’s not the Jews????!!!!
In that case what gives you muslims the right to invade my country to scrounge of it and bring your horrible evil disgusting ways into it, we all have to be tolerant and except islam and its backward medieval ways but islam only tolerates islam don’t be fooled by the media and the papers that your liked and welcome the majority of the country hate you and your backward evil religion if they wasn’t a problem why where laws forced through to protect you and even try and stop people from speaking freely and honestly your like a cancer that is slowly killing off the civilized world and the whole world is blindly walking into it and helping the cancer to spread .
I start wondering who old are you? Is this a teenage website? Anyways, let’s face it, none of us will be biased in this issue. Yes you won in the past, and still winning, but eventually you will lose, besides you’d not have won without the support of the western powers, too coward to fight alone. You still don’t know that the public opinion of the Muslim world is different from that of its shameless leaders. As for the UN, I mentioned it because your leaders seem too concerned about a possible membership status for Palestine, but who cares about the UN? If it’s for me, I’d withdraw from this inefficient entity long time ago. Bottom line, it’s a war and you’ll never feel safe and secure..ever
P.S.: yes, I was busy bombing the zionist civilians!
…..yes my “A Muslim” friend…and while you were busy tossing a bomb into the window of a civilian bus because of your terrorist nature you were losing the war by not protecting your own people!!!!
The Israeli’s won and will continue to win because they use their BRAINS and BRAWN…while your people only think in terms of terrorism and revenge. The Israeli’s have always fought ALONE….against the overwhelming odds of your brethren…and they have won due to BRAINS!!!
You people come from very similar stock and could have been just as successful building a country if you had used the same tact….but instead you listen to your hate filled mullahs sooooo it will NEVER change for you!!!
PS…why are you monitoring a Jewish site????
Sooooo “A Muslim”….are you one of those people dancing in the street of Gaza because hamasss ended the bombing????
Wonderful aren’t they????….Buuuut don’t you think maybe you should be dragging them through the streets behind motorcycles because they were responsible for the bombing in the first place!!!!!
Nooo??? then that shows what a crazed people you are….
so we won this round, but overall, I have to admit you are the winner since you are still occupying our holy land, but not for long. You can fool the traitors into negotiations with you but you can’t fool the real Muslims, and they’re in the rise. And you are the last ones to talk about ethics, how dare you (if you ask me about the dragging of that man, the act was in breach of the Islamic code, and sychos exist everywhere, especially when anger prevails)… I need not go to the past; in this very war, your occupying forces used internationally banned weapons but I guess it doesn’t matter since your ideology does not consider non-jews as humans… you can cite as many examples …
Is that your attitude- who won- how sick-
No one wins- just people die, or does that fail your psyche?
And its not your holy land-
Tell me where in the Qran does it mention that your prophet was ever there?
you can cite as many examples of your enemy’s brutalities against you as you can but in the final analysis your brutalities far exceed those committed against you in scale and degree…. and I feel sorry for those of your camp who were born into this reality and grew up thinking that they were born in their “homeland” and have not had or known any other homeland except what their fathers and predecessors have stolen from another people.. not to mention that your cancerous entity is a mere tool in the colonial power.. a mere puppet…. And you wonder why the media is biased against you? think again… think …
The only brutalities are those that you commit to yourselves-
Like stoning women and executing Homosexuals, Apostates and Blasphemers-
Crucifying each other- beheading and limb amputations-
Thats the brutality of sub humans!
Dear Mr. Mann,
I’m sorry to say that your question about the holy land is pathetic, if you base it on whether it is mentioned in the holy Quran or on whether the final universal prophet had been to the holy land or not…
And those whom you said died, they didn’t, and aren’t dead! They are Martyrs.
Don’t be surprised about my attitude because we have the right to resist the occupier of our holy land, whether you call the resistance terror group or not, it doesn’t matter. It is meant to terrorize the oppressor and the perpetrator. And one more thing, it’s not a Palestinian-Israeli conflict, don’t be mistaken.. it is Muslim-zionist conflict…
Again Mr. Mann,
Those so called brutalities you cited, don’t forget they also exist in the Jewish scriptures so why you still harp on this issue as if only Muslims who have these views or practices… But let me tell you something, even some of those brutalities you cited are controversial among Muslim scholars and they are not practiced at large. I’m wasting my time if I continue on this single argument because no matter what I say you would not believe as you have preconceived fossilized misconceptions, “rock-solid” to use your puppet’s master’s words describing their support to your entity….
Heeeey Muslim….
I didn’t ASK about your barbaric ways of dealing with so called miscreants,,,I suggested you chose the wrong victims…. kill your leaders who got you into the fix your in by years of terrorism rather than nation building….and what have you accomplished??? You’re now in worse shape than when you were created by your lord and savior Yessir Arearat!!!
The definition of a crazy person is Someone that does the same thing over, and over again
While expecting new results….that holds for a group of crazy people who think they can join in the company of civilized nations through continuous terrorism…it ain’t going to happen
PS…why are you monitoring a Jewish site????
Far from pathetic- I am talking NOW not 1400 years ago or even a 100 years ago-
Your faith still practices those awful brutalities- In Israel there is no criminal death penalty!
So squirm if you have to thats a fact.
And again I ask where in the Qran is it said directly that the Prophet was any where near what the Christians and Jews call the Holy Land.
This is the sickener-
“”By: Nicole Jansezi
While the world focused on Hamas militants launching rockets from Gaza at southern Israel, the terrorist organization also voted quietly to implement Islamic law in the Gaza Strip, including crucifixion of Christians, according to reports in the Arabic press.
The traditional Muslim criminal code, known as Sharia law, includes penalties such as amputation of limbs for stealing and the death penalty, including crucifixion, for actions Hamas deems detrimental to “Palestinian interests,” including collaborating with Israel.
The new law was reported on the Al-Arabiya Web site and in the London-based Saudi-owned newspaper Al-Hayat, which wrote tha
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that the implementation of Sharia law has “brought criticism and concern from human rights organizations in the Gaza Strip.”
funny because I think YOUR views are pathetic… and I didn’t and don’t expect anything less from you.. I understand. Let me make it clear to you, you have not yet seen an Islamic uprising, because Islam what unites us and not Arabism or any other rubbish, and I know you and your masters tremble at the possibility of such an a revolution.. because Muslims don’t negotiate their rights or shy away from their religion… real Muslims that is… not the shams who have been put to the thrones by the colonial powers..consider for example Iran and Hamas.. have divergent views but the cause united them against a common enemy..and don’t talk to me about sharia laws simply because you are ignorant re
A Muslim.Discussion about the palestian-israely conflict turn always to the same point: If you acept the very existence of Israel, there is a lot to talk, and both sides could reach a negociate solution, but if you don’t recognize the right of Israel to exist, is there anything to talk? “You” try to destroy Israel and if you could, you gonna kil all the jews in “your holly land”. Israel has the power to destroy the palestinian, but that never was the intension.There are in fact 2 diferent civilizations.Peace will come if a arab leader realy care about his people and stop demagogy, lies, terrorism, and acept to live along with Israel.Will that day come?
Dear Edi,
I’m afraid that that day will not come, for a very simple reason: Muslims don’t and won’t recognize the so called “israel”, and on the other hand, the “israeli” regime is not willing to give up lands they occupied and still occupying.. Besides if somebody claims that your house is actually his but with your resistance he reluctantly gives you two rooms from the total 20 rooms, and these rooms are not even adjacent and small, would you accept this situation? I believe not. And by the way, you are mistaken to think that Muslims are bloodthirsty and would kill Jews… we don’t kill someone based on his/her faith (don’t repeat the nonsense around capital punishment in Islam). contin.
You know and the whole world know that Jews have been living in the holy land under Muslim rule and they were not oppressed. True they live under dhimmi status but this status is far better than your shameless regime treat the Palestinians… dhimmis are protected by “sharia law” from any oppression… free to practice their religion and do business and even work in the government… And you dare talk about recognizing a colonial racist sadistic entity called “Israel”… Honestly, if you want peace, those zionist and jews who are not native to the land should go to the New World… Why don’t you go to America? there you will have a larger land and be free from the barbaric Muslims.. cont.
of course, you can’t, because it is ideological… and only power and force can solve the problem… since you took the land by force and ethnic cleansing… read about and listen to former Hagana forces confessions…. you can’t distort or hide the truth… and the truth is that this entity is odd and not homogeneous to the region…
Where to begin? Ok, let’s start with, oh, King David of Israel and his 40 years as ruler, between approximately 1010 and 970 B.C.E., and he ruled from a town known as Bethlehem. Now when was the “Prophet” born? I believe that was, yes, the Prophet Mohammed was born on 12 Rabee3 Al Awal in corresponding to the 20th of April 570 AD. So the long and short answer is….End of discussion!
There are numerous incidents where Jews (and Christians) were forcibly converted or murdered or expelled by Muslim rulers. Any good history book will cite them. Jews have a 3,000 year connection to the Land of Israel as confirmed by multiple texts and archaeology. Islam has only been around for 1,300 years and conquered what the Romans re-named Syria-Palaestina, formerly Judea (from the Hebrew Yehudah). So Jews have a 1,700 year advantage over Muslims on claims to the land however 1.6 million Muslims live peaceably in Israel.
If America is as appealing as you say, then I suggest you take the next plane. As for Muslims being barbaric, those are your words so should I disagree with you?
I tell you again and again… you don’t understand that Islam didn’t start from the final and universal prophet but from Adam… You Jews, as well as Christians, are Muslims in essence and origin… I know that you don’t believe in the last message to be from God, as Jews did not believe in the message of Jesus before… it’s not strange… this is human nature… Anyway, I naively here call you to revert to Islam if you still have a grain of wisdom… don’t be mistaken, God does not need anyone but if one really wants salvation, he/she must submit to His will… and by the same token, could you answer me why so many Jews and Christians embrace and accept Islam? Why there are so few, if any,
Muslims opt out of Islam and embrace Judaism or Christianity… mind you that they leave the whole to the part, and the complete and comprehensive Islam to the corrupted and fragmented Islam….. like it or not… by the way Treifler, David and Solomon are Muslim prophet, you see we can never agree…
I’d never ever waste my precious time discussing with muslims. Ignore them. They are not able to understand and will never see the truth because they’ve been made zombies from cradle on. If they have a little brain capability…it’s only applicable to routine torture and murder, even to their own. Save your energy to educate the normal humans who, if not alerted, they too will be converted to zombies even inside our own beloved United States of America (it’s already started) 🙁 as it happened in some European countries already!
it’s funny coz I am thinking the same way. “I’d never ever waste my precious time discussing with ZIONISTS. Ignore them. They are not able to understand and will never see the TRUTH because they’ve been made zombies from cradle on. If they have a little brain capability…it’s only applicable to routine torture and murder, even to their own. Save your energy to educate the normal humans who, if not alerted, they too will be converted to zombies…
YEAH yeah, go cry to your mother America, as does your lackey Mahmood Abbas… PS are you really living in the real world or in outer space… coz if you do live among mankind, you’d be able to distinguish bet. the perpetrator and the victim…
But I guess it’s hatred, bigotry and fanaticism… Don’t you see that your zionist entity is incongruous, alien, and foreign to the region. Don’t you see that it is the cause of all problems? By the way, I understand your position but don’t accept it. I know you’re victims. Anyway, Muslims don’t give any consideration to the UN simply because it is not DEMOCRATIC and very biased… and btw democracy is something cheap and pathetic. a flawed product. The priority now is to withdraw from this pathetic organization, achieve self-sufficiency and independence from colonial powers to eventually cut ties with them…
lovezion:
I wholly agree…it’s like speaking to a retarded child…they know one answer and nothing will change their mind right or wrong!!!!
That’s why this problem will never be solved…..My G-d…these “bigoted fanatic” idiots denied they were responsible for 911…even after the terrorists admitted they did it….the best excuse I heard..”it had to be the Jews…we (arabs) just aren’t smart enough to pull that off”!!!!
True…smart they’re not!!!!
One reason fewer Muslims convert to Judaism or Christianity than vice versa, may have to do with Islam’s tendancey toward forced conversions where ever they take over by force or otherwise, and its corresponding tendancy to kill muslims who convert out or who even are suspected of doing so.
Dear Muslim, it would be interesting to hear your solution to the middle east problem? You seem to infer the Jewish nation does not belong in the region and does not have a legitimate history relating to the land. Am i correct in understanding your comments?
You make it sound like the existence of Israel is the problem in the middle east. I believe Israel just wants to exist but there are those who hold certain beliefs that Israel should not exist. It is these beliefs that stir up hatred towards Israel so much so that even in conditions of poverty they can still attain missiles.Its a strange god you believe in that would cause you to hate anybody, evidently not the True God.
Dear A. Poorguy,
You started out as a moderate voice but at the end you deviated from politics to religion! Anyway, Muslims don’t deny the Jews or Israelis, and anybody for that matter, to exist, but not at the cost of others. Muslims know and acknowledge the Jews’ right to visit the holy land but not to take over it and kick out the already living people there, Muslims and otherwise. What you call “Israel” was built on massacres, bloodshed, and lots and lots of atrocities, just to realize the zionist dream. Why then deny Muslims to defend THEIR land and exclusively give the same right to you?! You are in a state of denial because of your blind zealotry to this entity. Same God for all men.
Soooo Poooor Muuuuslim….why are you trolling a Jewish site?????
Look, the matter of the fact is that both sides commit wrongdoing against one another but if you look beyond the surface and free yourself of fanaticism and bigotry, you would see the truth: the holy land must be under the rule of a just and fair authority; the zionist entity is far from being so. You like to harp on anti-semiticism and holocaust and you forget that you yourselves are racists and bigots. And you would also see that you are 1) the cause of all the trouble, and 2) a mere tool in the hands of the colonial power. However, I have to admit that your situation is rather queer; being the first puppet to manipulate its master!
arabs blame israel and u.s for their misery look no furthur the situtation in syria iraq prove the contary brother killing brother need i add more
“you are 1) the cause of all the trouble, and 2) a mere tool in the hands of the colonial power”
1. I can understand from your point of view, though do not agree. In the Hebrew scriptures (1Kings 18:17) wicked king Ahab accused the prophet Elijah of being the cause of all the trouble. In fact the real cause was Ahab’s idolatry. Likewise, Allah is the Moon God, one of many false gods originally worshipped by Muhammad’s clan at the Ka’aba.
2. WHAT colonial power? Israel is a sovereign state! If you mean America, the American President is a Muslim sympathiser. He wouldn’t admit that openly but some of his words and actions show it. He’s probably more on your side than Israel’s!
Lets see- racist bigots- 7 million Israelis include 15 other religions Black White and even yellow citizens all with equal rights-
Now the PA have said “Comes a State of Palestine not one Jew will be allowed to stay” Racism.
Pakistan- every day Hindus and Christians are persecuted- Racism
Saudi Arabia will not allow Christian bibles to be imported- Racism-
Gaza- 2009 new law of “Crucifixion” for Christians- who fraternise with Israelis.- Racism-
Muslim who wants to remain cowardly anonymous- you would not know the meaning of the word if it bit you in the rear end.
P.S-
Arabs are the chosen people of Allah; Allah resembles an Arab.–ibn Sa’d, vol.1, p.2.
Allah favours Arab racism—prophet is to be of Quraysh stock and of white complexion (ibn Sa’d, vol.1, p.95-96, Sahih Muslim, 20.4483.
Whoever says Muhammad was black must be killed.–Ash-Shifa, Tr. Aisha Abdarrahman Bewley, p.375.
THATS RACISM!
Laughable ignorant responses. Your responses show your abysmal ignorance about Islam as well as your fury and deep rooted hatred. And don’t bother to cite; I know what some Muslims said. It is so cheap a method to quote what agrees with your agenda and preconceptions and leave what other MUSLIMS said. I can do the same against you and overall ill find way much greater absurdities. Just wondering, are you a kid or the bigoted mentality is similar to that of a baby?!
SPEAKING OF ARAB RACISM:
1. While all religious minorities (including Muslims) experience religious freedom in Israel, the Muslim country of Saudi Arabia makes it illegal for a Jew to even enter the country in transit! (Jew here is defined as: someone carrying ANY Jewish object, someone having a Jewish sounding name, or someone with an Israeli stamp in their passport.) from”SODAHEAD”
2. “Delta Air Lines’ plan to add Saudi Arabian Airlines to its SkyTeam Alliance of partnering companies would require the American carrier to BAN JEWS and holders of Israeli passports from boarding flights from New York or Washington bound for Jeddah.”
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3. Many years ago I was doing some business with a Los Angeles production company. They told us that they had been contacted to do a promotional film on a Saudi Company but warned them not to bring any Jewish members of the crew along on the shoot!!!
4. Lebanese Tourism Minister Fadi Abboud told The Associated Press that he’s so upset about the portrayal of Beirut being filmed in Israel (for the TV show HOMELAND) that he’s considering a lawsuit. The producers answered…”How safe would the Jewish Producers, Cast & Crew feel if filming were done in Beirut???”
To the contrary- You know the responses to you ignorance shows your lack of knowledge- Thus you fail to respond to facts- just use meaningless rhetoric.
No matter keep it up-
Your faith has always used Taqyyia – The lie to promote Islam.
PS: apparently you are not living in the Zionist entity, otherwise you would feel ashamed to have said what you said!
And for your info, the USA is a democratic country not a dictatorship! You guys don’t get at all; understandably so! Coz you are outsiders and etc…
It would be more logical to address the the “claims” I made upon you instead of accusing your opponent of the same claims. It doesn’t say whether my “claims” are true or not. Just make a slight effort to look at yourselves and your reality.
…By the “Zionist Entity”…I assume you were referring to the present Israeli/Jews who have had a continuous presence in the Holyland since about 1200BC?????
….and since that TRUMPS any itinerant arab presence that arrived after 700AD …….you dudes are
LATECOMERS…by about 19 Centuries!!!
…did you say I should feel …”ashamed of what I said”??? ….the TRUTH HURTS, Doesn’t It? No one speaks of all the Jews that have been forced out of the arab countries plus Iran…they far outnumber the so called palestinian refugees rotting away in arab camps because your precious brethren won’t take them in.
My a-rab friend look in the mirror…”The Truth Will Set You FREE!!!”…
Again it’s funny how we see each other and how each of us claim to be right. Anyway, all what I can see in each and every comment of yours is inaccuracy and superficiality. You ignore the cause and highlight the symptoms… pathetic.. And about your main claim of your jewish ancestors living in the holy land hundreds and hundreds of years before Islam it is true but it does not give you the right to the land just by living or ruling the land some centuries ago… if we apply the same principle even to you, it’d be wars and displacements and choas everywhere, and you will find other claimants to the holy land besides the Muslims.. don’t forget that all humanity comes from Adam and Eve…
And don’t forget that there is only one religion from the time of Adam and Eve, call it whatever you like.. anything other than the submission to the one and sole Creator is not a religion. If your ruler is corrupt, you have all the right to overthrow him.. similarly if people corrupt religion, the Creator replaces them as they’ve become unworthy of bearing the light of monotheism and unqualified to be a good example to others. And one more thing, why do you insist on calling the conflict Arab-Israeli conflict… Arabism has nothing to do with albeit the zionist entity has been attacked by Arab and Arabists… It is Muslim-Zionist conflict, not even Muslim-Jewish conflict..
before you talk nonsense and spew your hatred and bigotry, look within! … I agree truth hurts and you project this in your denial… it’s ok. I understand… I say whatever I want and you say whatever you want but the final say is for who is more powerful to subject the other… Now you are strong only because mommy America, your master. At least have the courage to admit the massacres and wrongdoing of your zionist entity, as I did and declared that both sides committed atrocities against each other, sure we would disagree on who started it in the first place but you apparently approve those atrocities committed as necessary to realize and later sustain the your zionist entity…
so much for honesty… when turning a blind eye on your own atrocities and also approving of them, honesty is no more… when I and you are biased and we don’t criticize ourselves, we are no longer honest… Judge for yourself.. After all, it is vanity and pomposity….. and dare not not tell lies and inaccuracies of refugees and jews in Arab countries… You very well know, but can’t bring yourself to admit it, that your zionist entity is the one responsible to bring your diaspora to the “promised land”… and by the way, who ruled what you call the Arab countries in the recent past, not “Muslims” but Arabs… and there’s a sea of difference between the two… this is besides the point but.
but you prompted me to address it… this is a symptom not a cause…. don’t talk about the confrontations and squirmshes here and there between the Muslims and the Jews/Zionists… talk to me about who caused the problem in the first place. Did you expect that the living Muslims in the holy land will just give you the land and leave and on top of that say sorry… so dreamy and realistic.. and what’s the result of this monstrous and pathetic dream? war and misery for both sides..but there’s a fundamental difference between our belief and yours: ours is pure; yours is corrupted; ours is certain, yours is doubtful. we willingly and gladly face death; you are afraid of it. And you know why..
so much for honesty and honest reporting!
Muslim
Muslim, I agree with three of your statements! Taking them one at a time because of the word limit..
“about your main claim of your Jewish ancestors living in the holy land hundreds and hundreds of years before Islam it is true but it does not give you the right to the land”
The Jews have a right to the Land of Israel because GOD promised it to the descendants of Abraham through Isaac and Jacob. He loves all mankind, even though we have rebelled against Him, but in rescuing us from our sin and suffering He had to start somewhere. He started with Abraham. God told Ishmael’s mother, Hagar, that his descendants would be many and great. But Ishmael was not promised the Land.
Muslim said: “don’t forget that all humanity comes from Adam and Eve”
True, and God promised Eve that one born of woman would crush Satan. He chose Abraham, through Isaac and Jacob to be the ancestor of that Descendant, whom the Jews call Messiah, the Anointed One.
Your arrogance is beyond belief- ” ours is pure; yours is corrupted;”
Yours is the lie- because there is no way-
1/ You can prove that there was an Adam and Eve as you previously said-
2/ Neither can it be substantiated that Mohammed was a direct descendant of Ishmael.
3/There is absolutely no evidence that Mohammed was visited by the angel.
All are theocratic writings that have no substance other than has been written by others.
So either faith especially yours can not claim to be, in your words, pure or otherwise.
I challenge you to find one piece of literature where a person has said-
I saw the angel visit Mohammed .?
The final statement I agree with:
“…there is only one religion from the time of Adam and Eve, call it whatever you like.. anything other than the submission to the one and sole Creator is not a religion.”
However, the true and living God, Creator of the universe, is NOT Allah. The true God demands submission, but in LOVE, not fear and anger. He longs for us to know and walk with Him closely and thus find peace and fulfilment. He has found a way, through Messiah, to restore us if we will come to Him. It is not religion but the Way of LIFE to all who follow it. But Islam is a way of death; that seeks to kill or enslave all, especially those who follow it, such as yourself.
I CAN’T BELIEVE YOU PEOPLE ARE STILL DEBATING WITH THAT ZOMBIE MUSLIM HERE!!! You must have tons of time that you are wasting it here! So if you want to give a FREE platform to this jerk go ahead. However, I would have liked to see you demonstrate you are superior to this “mequetrefe” and just IGNORE HIM!!! Just let him talk only to himself!!! If you must say something, then do not address it to him, but rather to the other commenters. :o)
Hi Lovezion
I agree, though not with the way you write! You are in danger of confirming A Muslim’s view that “Zionists” are full of hatred for Muslims! He doesn’t know that he is a slave of the false god “Allah”. So maybe we should be patient with him, while using some of his points, as I have sought to do.
The real conflict is, as it has always been, between the true God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and false idol gods. Remember what God told Moses, that He was judging not merely the Egyptions for oppressing Israel, but the GODS of Egypt. But some of the Egyptians were saved and went with Israel in the Exodus.
In the end the god of Islam will be judged also.
My G-d…Muslim or is it “A”….you are one long winded putz…..I thought I was talkative!!!!
Let’s try a history lesson once more…
1. “Unknown to most of the world population, the origin of the “Palestinian” Arabs’ claim to Israel spans a period of a meager 30 years—a drop in the bucket compared to the thousands of years of the region’s long and rich history.
Unknown to most of the world population, the origin of the “Palestinian” Arabs’ claim to Israel spans a period of a meager 30 years—a drop in the bucket compared to the thousands of years of the region’s long and rich history.
At the beginning of the 20th century, there were almost no Arabs in Palestine/Israel.”……
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“In contrast Hebrews (or “Jews”), despite 2000 years of persecution and forced conversions by various conquerors, have always made up the majority of the population here. Only about 5,000 Arabs resided here when the British military forces, commanded by General Allenby, conquered “Palestine” in 1917/18; the other Moslems livng in the area either came from Turkey under the Ottoman Empire, or were the descendants of Hebrews and christians who were forcefully converted to Islam by the Moslem conquerors. None of these other Moslems were of Arabic origin.
The local inhabitants at that time did not call themselves “Palestinians”. “…
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“The concept of a “Palestinian” to describe the local residents has not yet been invented; ….
….neither was there ever in history a “Palestinian Arab” nation. None of today’s Arabs have any ancestral relationship to the original Biblical P’lishtians (“Philistines”) who are now extinct. Even Arab historians have admitted that “Palestine” never existed:
In 1937, the Arab leader Auni Bey Abdul Hadi told the Peel Commission: “There is no such country as Palestine. Palestine is a term the Zionists invented. Palestine is alien to us.”
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In 1946, Princeton’s Arab professor of Middle East history, Philip Hitti, told the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry: “It’s common knowledge, there is no such thing as Palestine in history.”
In March 1977, Zahir Muhsein, an executive member of the Palestinian Liberation Organization (“P.L.O.”), said in an interview to the Dutch newspaper Trouw: “The ‘Palestinian people’ does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the State of Israel.”
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FACT: Whether we arrived via the Big Bang or through Adam & Eve…everyone on this planet is pretty much related ….
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the Arabs and Jews are particularly close because of their origins. We probably would get along just fine if it wasn’t for religion….
To the best of my knowledge the Jews never tried to kill or force anyone to believe like them…in fact it’s against their principles to proselytize. Live and let live…
The christians on the other hand decided they needed (way back in time) to convert everyone to Jesus or kill them because when he came back their salvation depended on it!!! .
…and then we come to the muslims…they don’t want to convert anyone…they believe they should kill every “infidel” who’s not a muslim.
In 1948 the Jews reclaimed their ancient homeland….
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….In 1948 when the Jews reclaimed their ancient homeland the muslims just couldn’t handle the so called invasion of non muslims into the middle east…so the longest state of war in history began!!!
Well my a muslim friend…you ain’t gonna win this one!!!
You’re just lucky you didn’t start up with the Russians or Chinese…they would have just nuked you and that would be it…the Israeli’s keep trying to find a civil solution so this thing keeps dragging on.
Just continue with your bombings and beheadings of innocents till you all find your way to the 70 very soiled virgins waiting for you in the next world!!!
…of course we should ignore him…buuut when you’re retired you do have the time to joust at windmills and try to right the wrongs of the putze’s in life!!!
“Stormin” said
“The Christians on the other hand decided … to convert everyone to Jesus or kill them because when he came back their salvation depended on it!!!”
The test of a true follower of a religion is how closely he keeps to the tenets of that religion. The Christian scriptures are wholly AGAINST killing or attempting to forcibly convert anyone. In any case, Christians believe that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah. So how can anyone claiming to be his follower kill his people, Messiah’s people? Any Christian who harms Jews isn’t following Christ, however much he claims to.
But MUSLIMS who kill “infidels” are following Muhammad and the Quran very well!
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JP:
….of course you are correct….a true christian would never murder someone in christ’s name…however…it didn’t stop “good king Richard and the crusaders, The Spanish Inquisition. Uncle Adolph & PaPa Joe Stalin, et al, from plying their trade by murdering millions for Jesus!!!
Messianics believe : “Israel has to CONVERT for the Lord to come back. What happens if Israel refuses to convert? Obviously, FACTS ON THE GROUND WILL HAVE TO BE “CREATED” TO MAKE IT HAPPEN! …in other words they must be killed or salvation will not come”!!!
Just Another reason you can’t trust the right wing born agains who claim to love Israel…until we refuse to convert that is….
yeah yeah… how pitiful! how delusional! how detached from reality! how pompous and arrogant! how IGNORANT! The only reason I don’t answer your lies/misconceptions about Islam because I don’t have time to feed someone who is able to feed himself… And StorminNorm, you have nerves to again highlight the symptoms rather than the cause.. I tell you something, if you are so eager to prove that the so called Palestinian people was created or there were only few Arabs in the holy land, you’ve missed the point; it’s not about Arabs or Palestinians for that matter… Even if there was not a single Muslim or Arab in the holy land, it still belongs to the Muslims, not the Arabs…
At least I got something from this discussion; it’s reconfirmed my understanding about the zionists, not different from other haters of Islam… totally ignorant and they know very little, and this little is so misconstrued, yet they think they know everything! You like or not, Islam is ever increasing and ever in the rise that it’ll be the majority in the western countries and the rest of the world. The zionist entity, the sham entity, the shame entity, the lie entity will be wiped out but not the Jews because we respect and have laws against oppressing or offending people of other faiths, regardless of what some Muslims do; your injustice pushed them to it. You respect no one. Shalom…
A Muslim, I can well understand how desperate, unhappy and frustrated Arabs are in losing edvery war with people, who under Islamic rule, were the despised dhimmis. Please inform everyone her, exactly what it meansto be a dhimmio under Islamic rule.
Please explain, how the Islamic wortld carried out the slaughter of Jews before the 20th century.
I am delighted that we are all descended from Adam and Eve. Now, we are aware after being told so often that Jews are descended from pigs and apes. Now would that be from Adam and Eve? Were they descended as pigs and monkeys from our father Avraham? Was he descended, as the first Jew, from pigs and monkeys?
I am sure that may here, and not just myself, would appreciate the words of wisdom from such an intelligent person as yourself, as to when our descendency froom pigs and apes started.
It must be extremely upsetting to have the Jews better than you in all fields of humanity, sciences, arts, etc. I don’t see too many Nobel winners from the Arab or Islamic world. Perhaps, being descended from apes and pigs is far better than being descended from outcasts of society. In the holy bible, it says that the descendents of Esau will be a problem to mankind. how very true.
We look forward to your answers and comments, Muslim
…Martin, Martin, Martin…take it easy on “Mr. A…hole…muslim”…..remember while we may be descended from monkeys (certainly not pigs…it’s treif) … he’s descended from much worse……he comes from the noble muslims!!!!….a people who believes anyone not a muslim should be murdered……muslim women and children should be stoned for minor offenses….gays should be put to death…etc., etc. no wonder his brain is pate!!!
I challenged you to find one piece of literature where a person has said-
I saw the angel visit Mohammed .?
Have you no answer?
You are so arrogant that you are right with your assertions- Back them up-
You are a fraud- otherwise.
I’m sorry to say that “A Muslim” is on a rant — verbal diarrhoea — and occupying far too much space. He has no doubt been brainwashed since childhood. Unfortunately some of the participants on our side also give the appearance of being rather prejudiced, which does not help our arguments.
I have lived many years in Israel, a tolerant country where “freedom” can really be enjoyed and have worked with many Arabs, Bedu and Druze and have found many fine and noble characters among them. who just want to live in peace. Poisonous propagandists like your correspondent simply stir up hatred and corrupt the young.
Shalom Dan, I too, have lived in Israel, and served in the iDF. In tiranut I had 2 Bedu friends in my pluga, so yes, I am well aware of the situation in Israel. People likeA munslim will make comments and I always ask the same thing as above. Regarding pigs and monkeys. strange, they want to answer that one.
I do hope that he will continue. Oh by the way let us not forget the many Arabs in Israel who cheer when the rockets fall on Israel, hold silence for their martyrs, encourage and help the terrorists, such as the recent Tel Aviv bus attack.
thank you Stormin Norm, I am still waiting the shclemiels response….. Yaaaaawn
…Martin I just keep at them until they go away…What I really don’t understand is why these jokers seem to monitor all the Jewish sites…the Journal, the Forward, the Schmooze, Honest Reporting….do they really believe they are gonna covert Jews against Jews???
As for Israel they may not be perfect but like the USA they are the best there is at this point in the Earth’s civilization!!!
PS…the Jews who demonstrate against Israel and support the “Poor, Poor” Palestinians…in my mind they are turncoats…who are no better than the Jews for Jesus….”people to wipe your feet on”!!!
Norm, we have small but extremely loud vocal froups here. The Board (Jewish organisation mentioned that all Jewry supported Israel. however, one of the groups denied this and said that they did not support Israel’s war on Gaza – their words!!
I wrote to the Jewish Chronicle on this and another matter. I doubt it will be printed as it is too hard on the Jewish establishment, whose leadership is still that of the ghetto, scared to rock the boat, don’t want a backlash against us here etc etc.
The reason the schmendriks write to Jewish/Israeli sites is to vent their frustration. Their complaining letters to their own sites will probably result in a public hanging. Right A Muslim?
Jews love to Schmooze!!!…For a while I enjoyed dialogues in the Jewish Journal …sometimes we would go at it for days on various Jewish subjects, everything from Israel to Pastrami to Hollywood. All of a sudden you could not go on line immediately, they would “consider” every reply and decide in 24 hours or so …all the fun of the give and take was lost to censorship or some weird FEAR of “causing trouble”???? …What are they afraid of I actually supported most of their views against the “A. Muslim’s” of this world….they just seem to be afraid of making waves…that must of been what it was like in the 1930’s.
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Not long ago I repeated this story on some blog….When my wife and I arrived at BenGurion on our first trip to Israel in 1977….as we were walking through the airport she started “whispering”…look at the big Jewish flag over there…look at all the signs in Hebrew…look at all the old bubbies in black… I said Why the hell are you whispering? She said I don’t want anyone to hear me…I yelled at her Who’s gonna hear???…they’re all Jews here!!!
It’s Hard to drop the ways of the ghetto…REMEMBER that wonderful feeling when you first arrived in Israel …you feel that for the first time in my life…I’m NOW one of the majority…I’m NOT a minority, I BELONG!!!
There is something extremely wrong with the current Administration in Washington. As far as I know Hilary Clinton and Obama failed to condemn Hamas’s leadership for their barbaric comments saying that they were glad that the bus was bombed and that women and children were casualties. There is no sense of outrage about that statement. These times are different from the past when world leaders and opinion makers would have vehemently expressed outrage about their leader and questioned there legitimacy and their rights to govern in the future. Americans concerned about the future of Israel should target obama and Hillary Clinton with letters about their insanely inadequate response. I’m not talking about the bus attack per se as much as their later reactions. They were much too weak and they failed to notice a dramatic change in
Public statements by Hamas.
What would Obama say if terrorists attacked our buses and world leaders from other countries said they were glad it happened? Why the hell don’t they say that was wrong? Very wrong?
I’m talking about a new depraved indifference to human life evidenced by Clinton and the administration’s failure to recognize those statements as much worse and different from other world leaders, the world over.
They should be questioning the legitimacy of their motives since it is obvious they are not bargaining in good faith.
NOT JUST Barack & Hillary….BUT how about the “Loyal Opposition”??? I didn’t hear anyone object dot just blame the democrats!!!
Actually I would guess no one said anything because the “Uber Rhetoric” spouted constantly in the middle east by the arabs …by now we are used to it!!!
Kvetching ain’t gonna get anything done…we should cut back on the money we keep throwing at them.
the BBC and Clayton swisher are (like this mel gibbon gibson) ugly dirty puddles of mud, and way not as good as the band of that name hu.
the BBC specially. look at their dino vids. walkin with friggin dinos n beasts. coolly done. tech 1-ay.
“intellectual” / ethical stuff behind it: NADA, FELLAS ! 🙂 behind bbc: “socialdarwinism”. darwin gets abused and applied to “politics” (massmurder) by neonazi fascists. science then makes funny errors and flip-flops itself a bazillion times worse than any Romney could (he’s mega ok), science flipflops itself along. Monthy Python already had da BBC on their “blacklist”. 🙂
BRAVO to HONESTREPORTING. BEST PLACE A EVA SAW fellas. Yay. Peace n Love 2 all.
After the war, at a formal Government Press Office hearing, Donnison was given a warning
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“AMERICAN INFIDELS”. PHOA. WOW. BOA. EY. uhmm…. BOOOA !!! AHAHA ! goodness gracIOUS !!! ma nose broken ba MUSSIE proHITLER ANTISEMITE MUSSEE FREEKS for ME BEIN A JEW who DOES NOT LET THEM TALK ” HITLER WAS GOOD “.
RUMBALIN in a WORLD this WAY. !!!! ZZ TUP man. God. HASHEM !!! Yea. This wise of sayin it IS good. I would talk around that for like YEARS on this ANTISEMITE yahoo — it IS since beginning 2012. oy my god. “foreign SPIES”, some DOOF low nopower normal AMERICANS call US JEWS. when the JEWS in US congress are declining. Yahoo deleted the entire comment section when i interfered. 🙂 +ZION
Feel how American I AM, USA AND Israel. So when I AM a half-USAite by choice, ALL Jews are that now. 🙂
Furthermore. And that’s SOME heavy issue. Euro Jewish Media SUPRESSED the info about JEWS having been MURDERED by MUSLIMS.
“WHAT DO YOU THINK THE CARNAGE ON THE STREETS” — said one JEWISH representative in that, some docu. oy vey mir. IS HE CRAZY? what “CARNAGE”. we JEWS don’t DO THAT. comPLETELY outRAGEOUS as a JEW of some ORG to ASSUME that YER OWN BUDS would HURT ANY INNOCENT PEOPLE. only when THEY DA YEA DA MUSSIES how the AMIS now DO call the MUSLIMS, when tHEY come ATTACKING like NEONAZIS, which THEY sometimes, even not unoften, DO, THEN WE HAVE TO PROTECT ourselves- if not ALONE!
You left out a story about the media in America airing broadcasts against Neil Farbstein all the time. I know. I’m Neil Farbstein. They keep on confusing me with lubavitches, they slander my reputation and make death threats too. A lot of them. Some of them even scapegoat me for things. This has been going on a long time. They used to scapegoat me a lot more about (20 years) two decades ago. Sometimes I hear Jews talking like they want to hurt me for being a two state solution person even though I support the right of Jewish people to live in Israel.
I’m seeking interviews and somebody to help me write a book about everything I went through.
I feel its time to give me money and air my story
Neil Farbstein, your support of the 2-state will contribute to ending the Jewish State of Israel for ever!!! Is that what you want? THIS is the ONLY thing those palestinians want, and they hang on to this 2-state madness because THIS is what will fulfill their deeply and sick ambitions. Another thing, you won’t be spared having your head cut off just because you go along with the arab muslims and against the true interests of Israel.
Don Donnison is one of Bowens team. They are clearly propagandising for the Jihadists to make the ‘news’ inflamatory to Moslems. The BBC does nothing to stop it as its institutionally anti-semitic.
Oy vey. Voos ist dezen geschribkeit michigas? As de ganze velt shrite fur alle Yuden zol veren gehargit (epes-az mir zitzen by un boim, az mir behalt sach by un delicatessen, az mir voint unter de shtener ganz nackit, etc. etc. etc.). Az dee imams von alle shteten (nor blavootchkin vie a tzibrochena telephon) nemt arois a groiza messer und zoogt zu alle tzigiboigana vildi menchen, “hear zach tzu, loif arois von danin mosk and vie dee gefinst a Yude (ein second biz 127 yooren alt) shloog zey une and harge alle voos de gefindst!
The ganze schribkeiterin zoll kimin tzu. Dee tzukimin iazoi zay kenne zehen vee alle shtedtel Yuden haben “avec gegehen” und yezt hat dee valdt nicht mena hartz!
OK…SamtheShamus…I would love to spar with you but I don’t have enough years left to translate the Yiddish….can you anglicize it???
Stormin’
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