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Michael Rochester
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Mar 08, 2012
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Anama
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Mar 09, 2012
Michel I found your comment remarkable. You complain about the ULTRA RIGHT WING…taking over this place…Please look where the ULTRA LEFT WING bring us as Americans and as Jews!!!
If this regime continue four more years we are going to seems living in Venezuela… and I can talk about because I know… The same kind of thinking, the same resources and reasons… Don’t you see what is happening? We are in the way to loose even freedom of speech!!! We, as you call us…the ULTRA RIGHT WING do not care the color of the skin, we care about totalitarian ideologies, the oppression, the intentional damage of our values, the perverted pathological way to contaminate our daily conversation, pretending to distort reality based on false news, defamation, creating chaos around the world (OCCUPY) and the complicity of the main stream media, so dishonest!!! Do Mr Soros network pay you to comment here? You should know he is committed to destroy Israel and the USA as he said because he explain need to kill capitalism to reform (and get) his “New Global Order”. If you work for them, please do not report me.
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Bernard Braginsky
10:13 pm
Mar 09, 2012
ARPAIO INVESTIGATION: OBAMA MIGHT BE KENYAN
Records that could document status mysteriously missing
Among the records missing for Barack Obama that would be available for an ordinary president are passport records, school records such as those from Punahou, Occidental, Columbia and Harvard, Harvard Law Review writings, scholarly articles for the University of Chicago, state bar association records from Illinois, Illinois state senate records, the marriage and divorce documents for his mother, his adoption records and others.
Now it has been revealed that the Cold Case Posse assembled by Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Maricopa County, Ariz., cannot confirm yet that Obama was not born in Kenya and brought to the United States as a days-old infant for his birth to be registered in Hawaii.
The reason? Missing records.
Speculation has held that Obama actually was born in Kenya, and as the son of an American woman and Kenyan father, probably would not have been considered under any circumstances to be a “natural born citizen” of America, as the Constitution demands for presidents.
It’s been revealed that the Kenyan government actually investigated that possibility earlier, without conclusive results.
Now Arpaio’s team, which was assembled to work on a volunteer basis after hundreds of constituents expressed fear that Obama was having his name put on the 2012 election ballot in Arizona using a fraudulent document, has reported that it checked to determine whether a young mother arrived in the United States from Kenya in the days after Obama’s reported Aug. 4, 1961, birth date.
The investigation report said that the records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service cards, which were filled out by passengers of that era arriving on international flights originating outside of the United States, cannot be found.
The investigation sought the records from part of the month of August 1961, and took a researcher to the National Archives in Washington, D.C., where other records of that time and from that time frame are stored.
NOTE: In case you missed the news conference of Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s “Cold Case Posse,” you can view it here.
It is the records from the week of Obama’s birth that cannot be tracked, investigators confirm.
The Arpaio report said the hunt for airline passenger flight manifests for 1961 for foreign flights landing in Honolulu was an attempt to see if Obama’s mother returned at that time.
“The idea was that if Barack Obama had been born in Kenya, or any other location outside the United States, there should be a passenger record of the airline flight on which she, a new mother, returned to Hawaii with her newly born infant son,” the report said.
But “to date, investigators have not been able to locate the relevant airline passenger flight manifests for 1961.”
What was found were records of cards the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service required all passengers – including both U.S. citizens and foreign citizens – to fill out and file with passport control when arriving in Honolulu from a foreign city of origin.
The report said, “Microfilm records of INS cards for passengers arriving in New York on foreign files in 1961 have been found in the National Archives only recently; consequently these records have not yet been examined. Microfilm records of INS cards for passengers arriving in Honolulu on foreign files originating around the Pacific rim in 1961 have been examined at the National Archives in Washington, D.C.”
The microfilms that were found for the time period include “NARA Record Group A3573, Reel 184, INA records from July 28, 1961 through Aug. 7, 1961? and “NARA Record Group A3573, Reel 185, INA records from Aug. 8, 1961 through Aug. 12, 1961.”
However, “Remarkably, all INS records for the week of Obama’s birth, Aug. 1 – Aug. 7, 1961, were missing from the end of Reel 184 and were not discovered anywhere on Reel 185, or any other microfilm reel in the record group,” the report said.
“The National Archives confirmed in a letter written on National Archives stationary that the INS records for foreign flights arriving in Hawaii during the week of Obama’s birth were missing, not only on the microfilm reels examined, but also in the primary database itself,” the report said.
That leaves open the door that Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was, as others have reported, visiting her husband’s family in Kenya shortly before the birth. Airlines at that time likely would not have allowed a woman expecting to give birth any day to board an extended international flight, thus creating the circumstances for Obama’s birth in Kenya.
WND reported earlier that internal Kenyan government documents reveal Obama’s step-grandmother was interviewed by agents of the National Security Intelligence Service about reports she said Obama was born in the East African nation.
As WND reported that while there’s no proof to date placing Obama’s mother in Kenya for the birth, a disputed taped telephone conversation in which step-grandmother Sarah Hussein Obama purportedly claimed he was born in the coastal city of Mombasa became an Internet sensation after its submission in a lawsuit challenging the president’s eligibility.
Philip J. Berg, a former Pennsylvania deputy attorney general, included a transcript of the taped Oct. 16, 2008, telephone interview and sworn affidavits in a filing with the U.S. Supreme Court after lower courts dismissed as frivolous his Aug. 21, 2008, complaint alleging Obama was born in Mombasa.
Critics challenge statements on the telephone call, which was conducted through an interpreter. But two members of the Obamas’ Luo tribe who are fluent in the local Luo dialect, Swahili and English, have told WND that after carefully listening to the tape they believe she declared Barack Obama Jr. was born in Kenya and that she was present at the birth.
Kenya’s NSIS later investigated those statements, according to official government letters. WND also confirmed two letters purportedly written by Kenya’s immigration secretary during the 2008 U.S. presidential election campaign stated that officials in Nairobi could not find evidence Obama was born in Kenya. But the official said the government had “information” that relevant birth records may have been removed or were missing.
An “interim report” by the NSIS issued in September 2008 “concludes that a birth certificate in the name of Barack Hussein Obama may have been issued” in Kenya “but to confirm this would require a further thorough joint investigation” by the NSIS and Kenya’s Central Intelligence Department, or CID.
The report said that none of several investigations by various officers has been conclusive and that some leads require further investigation “because it appears some powerful forces as it were are hell bent in defeating this investigation.”
The government reported some hospital records appeared to be missing.
Further, a 2009 internal NSIS report (page 1 and page 2) said conflicting stories suggest the “the Obama family is trying to hide something but are not doing a very good job of it.”
The report said, “We have also investigated Mama Sarah to find out if she is speaking the truth but she had come out as vague and incongruent. In one interview with Mama Sarah Obama our officers recorded that Mama Sarah says she cannot remember if she attended the birth of Barack Obama or visited his parents at the Coast Provincial General Hospital around the official birthday of Barack Obama. But she confessed to have had part of her family there at around the same time. Some of her brothers were already working in Mombasa. In a second interview done much later, she says that she is sure Barack Obama was born in Mombasa because she was visiting her family there when he was born, and they were called to the CPGH (Coast Provincial General Hospital) where she met Barack Obama’s mother for the first time.”
The report said she later was hostile and gave conflicting testimony about the issue.
The NSIS also reported that there were multiple alterations and insertions in the hospital records, suggesting that someone was trying “keep off track any investigations into this case.”
There also was official correspondence involving Emmanuel Kisombe, the permanent secretary in the Ministry for Immigration and Registration of Persons, who in July 2008 told the U.S. ambassador about the possibility that Obama was born in their country.
He suggested an investigation. He wrote, “We have instructions from the Head of Civil Service and Secretary to the Cabinet carrying out directions of the Cabinet sub-committee on Security and Foreign Relations to investigate and report on efficacy of reports that Senator Barack Obama, the Democratic Party aspirant in the United States could be Kenyan-born.”
He cited “numerous intelligence reports that [Obama] might have been born in Mombasa at the Lady Grigg Maternity Wing of the Coast Provincial Hospital.”
Harvard-educated Dr. Jerome Corsi, who has written several books about Obama, wrote a year ago about the theories involving a Kenyan birth for Obama.
He cited the documentation that the Immigration and Naturalization Service suspected the marriage between Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, and Barack Obama Sr. to be a sham.
And there is the fact that within weeks of the birth, Dunham moved to Seattle to take night classes at the University of Washington.
Because of the absence of information, the reasons for some of those events remain unclear. But he noted in a column, “That Ann Dunham did not return to Honolulu until after Obama Sr. left in September 1962 to begin his graduate studies at Harvard suggests the possibility an estrangement between the conception of the baby and the birth had eliminated or eroded whatever bond might have existed between the two.
“Perhaps Ann hoped that she could persuade senior members of the Obama family in Kenya that she was a well-chosen daughter-in-law and her son was a desirable grandson,” he continued. “With her leftist ideological vision and the many comments she made to friends after arriving in Seattle with her infant son, Ann Dunham may well have harbored the hope of becoming the Eva Peron of Kenya.
“If Ann Dunham had been successful in persuading Obama Sr. and his family in Africa to accept her, she might have ended up in the desirable position of being the U.S.-born wife of a U.S.-educated Kenyan husband, who faced bright political prospects after he returned to Kenya with an advanced graduate degree obtained from a prestigious U.S. university,” his analysis said. “With the last six months of her pregnancy missing in her documentable chronology, it’s possible she was not in Hawaii during that time. Air travel from Honolulu was becoming increasingly more accessible to the average person by 1961.”
He said, “That Ann Dunham was rejected both by the Obama family in Kenya and by Obama Sr. in Honolulu also provides an explanation for her precipitous decision to leave Honolulu as quickly after the baby’s birth as possible. Hope followed by rejection would then define the emotions that explain Dunham’s behavior during her 1961 pregnancy.”
He said, “Moreover, if the baby was born in Kenya, the actual date of birth might have been earlier than Aug. 4, 1961. Very possibly, the grandparents decided to register the baby’s birth with the Hawaii Department of Health when they knew their daughter was returning to Honolulu from Africa.
“That Ann Dunham as an 18-year-old took an infant baby to Seattle by herself to rent an apartment and begin night courses would make more sense if the baby had been born in Kenya earlier than Aug. 4, 1961, the date of birth consistently advanced in the official Obama nativity story.”
The Cold Case Posse dismissed so-called evidence of two newspaper announcements in Honolulu citing Obama’s birth, explaining that those same announcements also listed foreign infants as Hawaii-born, as well as listing 3-year-olds as newborns.
Under Chapter 57 of the 1955 Revised Law of the Territory of Hawaii, a family in 1961 could report a birth as Hawaiian with merely the word of a family member or witness.
That there was reason for members of his family to claim a Hawaiian birth was documented by the state of Hawaii. In a 1955 paper by Robert Bennett, the chief of the Bureau of Health Statistics of the Hawaii Department of Health, he explained the vital records system he was then implementing for the Hawaiian Islands, which soon would be a state.
In an article entitled “Vital Records in Hawaii,” published in the Hawaii Medical Journal, Vol. 15, No. 2, November-December 1955, Bennett and his co-author, George Tokuyama, chief of the Registration and Records Section, wrote:
“The requirement of a birth certificate throughout the country to show citizenship, during World War II, gave a great impetus to the completeness of registration. This and other factors have made a birth certificate the principal document an American citizen uses to prove legal facts about himself. Almost every parent knows that a baby must be registered soon after birth, not only to meet requirements of the law, but to protect the child later in life.”
There also have been conflicting reports from Obama family members about which Hawaii hospital was his birth location, and neither has been able to provide any documentation confirming it.
There also have been discrepancies reported in the image of Obama’s birth certificate that the White House purported was “proof positive” of a Hawaiian birth, including an out-of-sequence number.
Further, research has revealed that on his INS paperwork filled out the same month Barack Obama Jr. was born, Barack Obama, Sr. incorrectly lists his wife’s name as “Ann S. Dunham” instead of “Stanley Ann Dunham,” and he neglected to mention that he had any children.
Obama Sr. also listed his address at 1482 Alencastre St. in Honolulu, a bachelor apartment he never shared with his wife or child.
And passport documents released for Barack Obama Jr.’s mother by the State Department on July 29, 2010, did not include any birth certificate documentation for him, despite one hand-written memo to the file claiming he was born in Honolulu.
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marlis adler
10:20 pm
Mar 08, 2012
there isn’t much to say. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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btw
3:09 am
Mar 09, 2012
I see that my comment (submitted at 3:57 am on Mar 08, 2012) is still awaiting moderation?!
For how long more???
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btw
3:25 am
Mar 13, 2012
At this time I see that my first comment (submitted at 3:57 am on Mar 08, 2012 ) somehow arrived again (???) with the same notice: “Your comment is awaiting moderation.”
Don’t know what’s going on. Before submitting my previous comment (“To Moderators:”) I checked several times and didn’t find that first comment – so I decided that you removed it. This was the reason for my comment “To Moderators:”
Please make the situation clear.
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Deanna
7:16 pm
Mar 09, 2012
Michael, can’t you get off that left wing good and right wing bad thing? Let Israel come up with a solution to the problem because they’re there and we are here. They are a soverign country and why should they wait because of us? Prez Obama has been doing nothing but campaigning for his next election and the rest of us be damned. He says he’s got Israel’s back but the next day he has a different story to tell all the pundits have to explain what he really means. No one wants war but if Israel waits until after our fearless leader’s election it may be too late. They have the intel and we just guess or blame the other side. This is a world problem and if the major parties can’t get together and decide how to support Israel and their decision, we are all going to suffer the consequences. It’s not scare tactics; it’s reality.
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Michael Rochster
9:49 pm
Mar 09, 2012
It’s unfortunate that this has reduced itself to name calling. For Deanna’s information I am not a left wiung nut and have been a registered Republican for 30+ years. I OBJECT to this name calling and the idiotic birter comments that I have seen in response to this question. Israel’s defense is up to Israel and whether we like it or not what Obama says doesn’t matter. The fact that he has provided Israel with weaponry such as tankers and bunker busting bombs speaks much louder than any comments to AIPAC. It seems to me that mnay of the commentators would not aprove of anything he says unless it is “I resign”
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Bernard Braginsky
10:11 pm
Mar 09, 2012
ARPAIO INVESTIGATION: OBAMA MIGHT BE KENYAN
Records that could document status mysteriously missing
Among the records missing for Barack Obama that would be available for an ordinary president are passport records, school records such as those from Punahou, Occidental, Columbia and Harvard, Harvard Law Review writings, scholarly articles for the University of Chicago, state bar association records from Illinois, Illinois state senate records, the marriage and divorce documents for his mother, his adoption records and others.
Now it has been revealed that the Cold Case Posse assembled by Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Maricopa County, Ariz., cannot confirm yet that Obama was not born in Kenya and brought to the United States as a days-old infant for his birth to be registered in Hawaii.
The reason? Missing records.
Speculation has held that Obama actually was born in Kenya, and as the son of an American woman and Kenyan father, probably would not have been considered under any circumstances to be a “natural born citizen” of America, as the Constitution demands for presidents.
It’s been revealed that the Kenyan government actually investigated that possibility earlier, without conclusive results.
Now Arpaio’s team, which was assembled to work on a volunteer basis after hundreds of constituents expressed fear that Obama was having his name put on the 2012 election ballot in Arizona using a fraudulent document, has reported that it checked to determine whether a young mother arrived in the United States from Kenya in the days after Obama’s reported Aug. 4, 1961, birth date.
The investigation report said that the records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service cards, which were filled out by passengers of that era arriving on international flights originating outside of the United States, cannot be found.
The investigation sought the records from part of the month of August 1961, and took a researcher to the National Archives in Washington, D.C., where other records of that time and from that time frame are stored.
NOTE: In case you missed the news conference of Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s “Cold Case Posse,” you can view it here.
It is the records from the week of Obama’s birth that cannot be tracked, investigators confirm.
The Arpaio report said the hunt for airline passenger flight manifests for 1961 for foreign flights landing in Honolulu was an attempt to see if Obama’s mother returned at that time.
“The idea was that if Barack Obama had been born in Kenya, or any other location outside the United States, there should be a passenger record of the airline flight on which she, a new mother, returned to Hawaii with her newly born infant son,” the report said.
But “to date, investigators have not been able to locate the relevant airline passenger flight manifests for 1961.”
What was found were records of cards the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service required all passengers – including both U.S. citizens and foreign citizens – to fill out and file with passport control when arriving in Honolulu from a foreign city of origin.
The report said, “Microfilm records of INS cards for passengers arriving in New York on foreign files in 1961 have been found in the National Archives only recently; consequently these records have not yet been examined. Microfilm records of INS cards for passengers arriving in Honolulu on foreign files originating around the Pacific rim in 1961 have been examined at the National Archives in Washington, D.C.”
The microfilms that were found for the time period include “NARA Record Group A3573, Reel 184, INA records from July 28, 1961 through Aug. 7, 1961? and “NARA Record Group A3573, Reel 185, INA records from Aug. 8, 1961 through Aug. 12, 1961.”
However, “Remarkably, all INS records for the week of Obama’s birth, Aug. 1 – Aug. 7, 1961, were missing from the end of Reel 184 and were not discovered anywhere on Reel 185, or any other microfilm reel in the record group,” the report said.
“The National Archives confirmed in a letter written on National Archives stationary that the INS records for foreign flights arriving in Hawaii during the week of Obama’s birth were missing, not only on the microfilm reels examined, but also in the primary database itself,” the report said.
That leaves open the door that Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was, as others have reported, visiting her husband’s family in Kenya shortly before the birth. Airlines at that time likely would not have allowed a woman expecting to give birth any day to board an extended international flight, thus creating the circumstances for Obama’s birth in Kenya.
WND reported earlier that internal Kenyan government documents reveal Obama’s step-grandmother was interviewed by agents of the National Security Intelligence Service about reports she said Obama was born in the East African nation.
As WND reported that while there’s no proof to date placing Obama’s mother in Kenya for the birth, a disputed taped telephone conversation in which step-grandmother Sarah Hussein Obama purportedly claimed he was born in the coastal city of Mombasa became an Internet sensation after its submission in a lawsuit challenging the president’s eligibility.
Philip J. Berg, a former Pennsylvania deputy attorney general, included a transcript of the taped Oct. 16, 2008, telephone interview and sworn affidavits in a filing with the U.S. Supreme Court after lower courts dismissed as frivolous his Aug. 21, 2008, complaint alleging Obama was born in Mombasa.
Critics challenge statements on the telephone call, which was conducted through an interpreter. But two members of the Obamas’ Luo tribe who are fluent in the local Luo dialect, Swahili and English, have told WND that after carefully listening to the tape they believe she declared Barack Obama Jr. was born in Kenya and that she was present at the birth.
Kenya’s NSIS later investigated those statements, according to official government letters. WND also confirmed two letters purportedly written by Kenya’s immigration secretary during the 2008 U.S. presidential election campaign stated that officials in Nairobi could not find evidence Obama was born in Kenya. But the official said the government had “information” that relevant birth records may have been removed or were missing.
An “interim report” by the NSIS issued in September 2008 “concludes that a birth certificate in the name of Barack Hussein Obama may have been issued” in Kenya “but to confirm this would require a further thorough joint investigation” by the NSIS and Kenya’s Central Intelligence Department, or CID.
The report said that none of several investigations by various officers has been conclusive and that some leads require further investigation “because it appears some powerful forces as it were are hell bent in defeating this investigation.”
The government reported some hospital records appeared to be missing.
Further, a 2009 internal NSIS report (page 1 and page 2) said conflicting stories suggest the “the Obama family is trying to hide something but are not doing a very good job of it.”
The report said, “We have also investigated Mama Sarah to find out if she is speaking the truth but she had come out as vague and incongruent. In one interview with Mama Sarah Obama our officers recorded that Mama Sarah says she cannot remember if she attended the birth of Barack Obama or visited his parents at the Coast Provincial General Hospital around the official birthday of Barack Obama. But she confessed to have had part of her family there at around the same time. Some of her brothers were already working in Mombasa. In a second interview done much later, she says that she is sure Barack Obama was born in Mombasa because she was visiting her family there when he was born, and they were called to the CPGH (Coast Provincial General Hospital) where she met Barack Obama’s mother for the first time.”
The report said she later was hostile and gave conflicting testimony about the issue.
The NSIS also reported that there were multiple alterations and insertions in the hospital records, suggesting that someone was trying “keep off track any investigations into this case.”
There also was official correspondence involving Emmanuel Kisombe, the permanent secretary in the Ministry for Immigration and Registration of Persons, who in July 2008 told the U.S. ambassador about the possibility that Obama was born in their country.
He suggested an investigation. He wrote, “We have instructions from the Head of Civil Service and Secretary to the Cabinet carrying out directions of the Cabinet sub-committee on Security and Foreign Relations to investigate and report on efficacy of reports that Senator Barack Obama, the Democratic Party aspirant in the United States could be Kenyan-born.”
He cited “numerous intelligence reports that [Obama] might have been born in Mombasa at the Lady Grigg Maternity Wing of the Coast Provincial Hospital.”
Harvard-educated Dr. Jerome Corsi, who has written several books about Obama, wrote a year ago about the theories involving a Kenyan birth for Obama.
He cited the documentation that the Immigration and Naturalization Service suspected the marriage between Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, and Barack Obama Sr. to be a sham.
And there is the fact that within weeks of the birth, Dunham moved to Seattle to take night classes at the University of Washington.
Because of the absence of information, the reasons for some of those events remain unclear. But he noted in a column, “That Ann Dunham did not return to Honolulu until after Obama Sr. left in September 1962 to begin his graduate studies at Harvard suggests the possibility an estrangement between the conception of the baby and the birth had eliminated or eroded whatever bond might have existed between the two.
“Perhaps Ann hoped that she could persuade senior members of the Obama family in Kenya that she was a well-chosen daughter-in-law and her son was a desirable grandson,” he continued. “With her leftist ideological vision and the many comments she made to friends after arriving in Seattle with her infant son, Ann Dunham may well have harbored the hope of becoming the Eva Peron of Kenya.
“If Ann Dunham had been successful in persuading Obama Sr. and his family in Africa to accept her, she might have ended up in the desirable position of being the U.S.-born wife of a U.S.-educated Kenyan husband, who faced bright political prospects after he returned to Kenya with an advanced graduate degree obtained from a prestigious U.S. university,” his analysis said. “With the last six months of her pregnancy missing in her documentable chronology, it’s possible she was not in Hawaii during that time. Air travel from Honolulu was becoming increasingly more accessible to the average person by 1961.”
He said, “That Ann Dunham was rejected both by the Obama family in Kenya and by Obama Sr. in Honolulu also provides an explanation for her precipitous decision to leave Honolulu as quickly after the baby’s birth as possible. Hope followed by rejection would then define the emotions that explain Dunham’s behavior during her 1961 pregnancy.”
He said, “Moreover, if the baby was born in Kenya, the actual date of birth might have been earlier than Aug. 4, 1961. Very possibly, the grandparents decided to register the baby’s birth with the Hawaii Department of Health when they knew their daughter was returning to Honolulu from Africa.
“That Ann Dunham as an 18-year-old took an infant baby to Seattle by herself to rent an apartment and begin night courses would make more sense if the baby had been born in Kenya earlier than Aug. 4, 1961, the date of birth consistently advanced in the official Obama nativity story.”
The Cold Case Posse dismissed so-called evidence of two newspaper announcements in Honolulu citing Obama’s birth, explaining that those same announcements also listed foreign infants as Hawaii-born, as well as listing 3-year-olds as newborns.
Under Chapter 57 of the 1955 Revised Law of the Territory of Hawaii, a family in 1961 could report a birth as Hawaiian with merely the word of a family member or witness.
That there was reason for members of his family to claim a Hawaiian birth was documented by the state of Hawaii. In a 1955 paper by Robert Bennett, the chief of the Bureau of Health Statistics of the Hawaii Department of Health, he explained the vital records system he was then implementing for the Hawaiian Islands, which soon would be a state.
In an article entitled “Vital Records in Hawaii,” published in the Hawaii Medical Journal, Vol. 15, No. 2, November-December 1955, Bennett and his co-author, George Tokuyama, chief of the Registration and Records Section, wrote:
“The requirement of a birth certificate throughout the country to show citizenship, during World War II, gave a great impetus to the completeness of registration. This and other factors have made a birth certificate the principal document an American citizen uses to prove legal facts about himself. Almost every parent knows that a baby must be registered soon after birth, not only to meet requirements of the law, but to protect the child later in life.”
There also have been conflicting reports from Obama family members about which Hawaii hospital was his birth location, and neither has been able to provide any documentation confirming it.
There also have been discrepancies reported in the image of Obama’s birth certificate that the White House purported was “proof positive” of a Hawaiian birth, including an out-of-sequence number.
Further, research has revealed that on his INS paperwork filled out the same month Barack Obama Jr. was born, Barack Obama, Sr. incorrectly lists his wife’s name as “Ann S. Dunham” instead of “Stanley Ann Dunham,” and he neglected to mention that he had any children.
Obama Sr. also listed his address at 1482 Alencastre St. in Honolulu, a bachelor apartment he never shared with his wife or child.
And passport documents released for Barack Obama Jr.’s mother by the State Department on July 29, 2010, did not include any birth certificate documentation for him, despite one hand-written memo to the file claiming he was born in Honolulu.
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Bernard Braginsky
10:26 pm
Mar 09, 2012
I suggest that you respond to the points in Sheriff Arpaio’s investigation instead of trying to divert attention to me personally.But, of course, you can’t.
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Jan Freed
12:11 am
Mar 10, 2012
Without slogging through the whole report, it sounds like we have only allegations (tenuous at best) yet to be proven, and a great deal of speculation. Why don’t we wait to see how much of this is true, and how much is bogus – as a sorry attempt to discredit the president.. Isn’t a man innocent till proven guilty?
There is no way we can gauge the veracity from here. My bet is that the case will be thrown out.
And, for someone who called the president a “swine” Bernard, I noticed
you are pretty sensitive to personal attack yourself.
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Bernard Braginsky
12:27 am
Mar 10, 2012
Jan your comments “without slogging through the whole report, ” “it sounds like,” require interpretation. What you are saying is you haven’t read the report, so you don’t know what you are pontificating about. Fess up, Jan, if this were a Republican president in question, you’d be salivating over your lamb chops. Oh, and did I call our Noble Leader a swine? My oversight. I meant slime. Bernie
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Jan Freed
2:08 am
Mar 14, 2012
Calling people names, again? Bernard, you are an expert on slime. In fact, you are a purveyor of slime.
Along with the silly birther claims, all sorts of pathetic, dishonorable attempts to discredit the President are out there. Dollars to donuts you, Bernard, subscribe to them as well
see FactCheck.Org’s article called “Sliming Obama”
http://factcheck.org/2008/01/sliming-obama/
No more time for you, Bernard. Happy slime spreading.
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Anama
3:12 am
Mar 14, 2012
This is a reply to Jan Freed not to Bernard: Along with the silly birther claims, all sorts of pathetic, dishonorable attempts to discredit the President are out there; I would like to tell you that:
This president doesn’t need any kind of attempt to be discredit. It would be a total exaggeration or even an excess from anyone to try to discover more issues. No need to find now …
He himself and his friends, activists and donors have made enough to show what the future will show. The truth will speak by it self.
Justice Louis Brandeis’s assertion that “Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants; electric light the most efficient policeman.” So that will be an adequate way to open the grandiosity about the political associations and hard work for the American hope and change…for the New World Order…and the poisoning, division, and blindness for the American people. He has made all the job that it’s need it to achieve that goal, and more…
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Beverly Kurtin
6:30 am
Mar 28, 2012
It seems that you are ignorant of the FACTS. Using your impaired logic, McCain was not a natural born citizen because he was born in PANAMA! A child born to an American citizen is automatically a “natural born American citizen” so your entire rant is invalid.
Get used to the fact that President Obama qualifies for the office and is one of the best presidents we’ve ever had. My favorites are Truman, Clinton and now Obama.
The morons who are arguing about the government not being able to tell people to buy something they don’t want ought to try driving in most of the states WITHOUT LIABILITY INSURANCE. It is a violation of law to drive without it.
I get a kick out of racists who don’t like the idea of a black president, Judge the man by what he has achieved, not by your prejudices.
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Beverly Kurtin
6:38 am
Mar 28, 2012
I forgot to mention that the baloney about him not having “records” of this, that and the other is ludicrous. HE HEADED THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW. There are more than enough records to prove all of his claims. The ONLY thing that is missing is the fact that some people are so racist that they can’t stand the facts.
He WON with 59% of the vote. SOMEONE voted for him, yes? I know I did. I’ve been a follower of President Obama since his keynote address at the 204 Democratic Convention. He blew me away and I predicted that night that he would be president at some point in the future. I was right.
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Abu Nudnik
4:47 pm
Sep 20, 2012
Headed the Harvard Law Review without one single published article on law.
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Abu Nudnik
4:46 pm
Sep 20, 2012
Short and sweet at least.
Have you ever considered that maybe he thought “Now, my dad was never a US citizen which makes me an ineligible receiver for the Oval Office. How do I get around it? I know. I’ll pretend I was born in Kenya and fight tooth and nail to release my birth records. I’ll say I was born in Kenya on my blog from 99-07. That way they won’t be looking at my dad’s citizenship at the time of my birth.”
Dumb birthers. Read the Constitution.
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Michael Rochster
10:15 pm
Mar 09, 2012
I am fully convinced that Bernard Braginsky and his ilk would deny that Obama was born in Hawaii even if they were present in the delivery room at his birth.
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Bernard Braginsky
10:30 pm
Mar 09, 2012
Michael I suggest that you respond to the points in Sheriff Arpaio’s investigation instead of trying to divert attention to me personally.But, of course, you can’t. Bernie
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Abu Nudnik
4:49 pm
Sep 20, 2012
Not even germaine! His dad was a subject of the British Crown and Commonwealth at the time of O’s birth. Hence, ineligible to be president. The parents must be naturalized or native-born US citizens at the time of the candidate’s birth.
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Michael Rochster
12:36 am
Mar 10, 2012
Bernard-Bernard– Isn’t it about time that you quit this nonsense and stopped wasting everybodies time and computer capacity. Time and time again impartial observers of all political persuasions have determined that the good sheriff has got nothing. Only that he has an axe to grind and hates the minority person who was elected President of these United States.
If you like I can provide you with information to prove that you were born on some other planet
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Bernard Braginsky
1:21 am
Mar 10, 2012
Michael, Michael, Michael see, I can do you one better. Pls name the “impartial observers of all political persuasions” to whom you allude. Also, pls document the instances of “time and time again.” As far as getting off the computer is concerned, are you kidding? I haven’t had this much fun since I discovered Obama’s attorney general is a racist schlemiel who won’t prosecute the Black Panthers. Am I wasting your time, bubby? Nobody’s forcing you to read my comments. But you do, don’t you? Enjoy.
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Frank Adam
8:26 pm
Mar 10, 2012
I wish people would drop the internal US matter of Obama’s eligibility to be president which is in no way helpful to analysing the situation and its options and devising courses of action to deal with it. Whether anybody likes it or not, Obbama is the sitting president till voted out this Nov or even another four years and we as a minority, or as Israel a bit player in the developed World, have to navigate his top- dog- on- the- planet policies.
It is far more important to level at the US the €U the “left press” the implicit questions whether the Arab parties are willing to talk and show their bona fides by:
stopping media and schoolbook incitement;
by suppress crossing border armed activity;
by dropping secondary boycotts and pressure to boycott;
by working to ostracise Israel in the UN and other international fora.
If we let these matters ride on the assumptions and ignorance of third parties however powerful then we let the Arabs win their obstructionst path of posing conditions for peace talks. It is time for Israel to return to the BG tactics of 49 – 67 and insist on its intersts by gently asking wha the Arabs are offering by way of minima to createa ppositive relatinship for any peace talks.
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Beverly Kurtin
9:47 pm
Mar 16, 2012
This is late, but I just had to tell the “birther” above that in order for your twisted concepts to be true, his parents would have had to know that President Obama would grow up to be the president.
His birth certificates show that he was born in the United States.
Enough of the hate and stupidity against our president: STOP IT!
A woman had asked me who I was going to vote for for president. I told her I was voting for the president. She then called me a traitor because Obama was anti-Israel and how could I vote for someone who was against my country.
First, Obama is not anti-Israel, any doubts should have been erased by his speech, nobody could be any clearer about what his intentions towards Israel are. He is all for protecting Israel. He is not a Muslim and I am an AMERICAN.
The notion that all Jews are Israelis is as absurd an idea as I’ve ever heard, and the “birthers” are even MORE absurd.
I am a veteran of the U.S. Air Force and have an Honorable Discharge to prove it; I have never been in the IDF. I am a 3rd generation American, my children are 4th generation and my grandchildren are 5th generation Americans. I am also disabled, I’m writing this while sitting in a wheelchair. If I went to Israel, something I would love to do, I would simply be a drag on Israel’s economy.
Honest Reporting could have chosen not to print the screed about President Obama’s citizenship as all it does is fan the flames of hate.
McCain was not born in the United States; he was born in Panama. But he’s a citizen because he was born in an American territory. Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii; an American state. He is for Israel and I am working for his reelection.
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Beverly Kurtin
9:52 pm
Mar 16, 2012
Braginsky: You’re absolutely right, a birth certificate with the name Barak Obama is in Kenya. That was the name of the president’s FATHER. Do you hate black people that badly? The birthers, like you, have one goal: Get the nigger out of the White House.
I loath that word, it is as ugly as calling us kikes.
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Bernard Braginsky
7:48 pm
Mar 17, 2012
Hi Beverly Glad to see you are reading my views. These would never have appeared several years ago, when American Jews were lost in a miasma of liberal nonsense. The mere fact that American Jews like myself are now openly expressing conservative viewpoints and are being heard is in itself a victory. Yes, we are being heard, and how. And that’s really why you are so enraged, isn’t it, Bev? We are kicking your butt all over the political stage. I note with interest that the overwhelming number of responses in this section of Honest Reportng side with my viewpoint, not with yours. As far as Obama’s so-called birth certificate is concerned, even liberal CBS broke the silence on this a few days ago. Please see link below. Bernie
http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/stunner-balanced-tv-report-on-arpaio-probe/
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Beverly Kurtin
6:44 am
Mar 28, 2012
Conservatives are essentially cowards who are afraid of their own shadows. That is not my opinion, psychologists who have studied both conservatives and liberals–and I am a proud liberal–were frightened as children and have been afraid of change ever since whereas liberals see that things need changing and work towards change.
I get a kick out of people saying that the government shouldn’t make people do what they don’t want to do, such as buying health insurance. Try driving in most states without liability insurance. You can’t get a driver’s license or register a vehicle without proof of insurance. Stick that in your head and see if it computes.
President Obama is a firm supporter of Israel!
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Michael Rochster
8:40 pm
Mar 17, 2012
Bernard== you are getting old and so are your comments. This item was supposed to be about The Preaident and Israel not about a rant as to whether he is an American or not. Please stop wasting everybody’s time. Your uninformed opinion hs already been registered and forgotten by most of the commenters.
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Bernard Braginsky
8:48 pm
Mar 17, 2012
But not forgotten apparently by you, Mike. Oh, and you spelled your name wrong. No charge
for the English lesson. Perhaps you and Bev ought to exchange phone numbers. Might be a shidach. And just think, I brought you two together. I’m such a nice guy. Yours, Bernie
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LF
6:03 pm
Mar 18, 2012
I came here to read up about followup to AIPAC conference, and this particular topic is important. I am disgusted by the conversation that ensued. And only 2 or 3 in the discussion. All of it, a real turn-off to this website. I’ve received emails from HonestReporting since their inception. I don’t have time to read all of them in recent times, but follow events as well as the conference with other media and community and people in my life. I look for respect and a reasonable amount of time focused on topic before possibly going to other heated or related topics. The feeling is like registering for a particular university course and the professor teaching about a different course subject. And the students (commentors) complaining about the spelling and grammar. !! What a waste of time here. Sorry to say.
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LF
6:13 pm
Mar 18, 2012
Update: I have just discovered there are “older comments” to view here. (It is not clear as they are on other websites.) I see the many conversations that have taken place before this page that I unfortunately landed on. I am relieved to see there was some discussion before this section. One should never read just the last page…
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Abraham Schnierson
5:36 pm
Mar 26, 2012
This thread has been commandeered by another topic entirely of no relevance.
I suggest that the moderators in future ensure that comments retained are only related to the topic. Perhaps Honest Reporting can call upon frequent contributors to become volunteer moderators if there is not enough time to do the work.
If we promoting fairness and truth, we should not then become a source of propaganda against others.
The moderators should ensure that anything on this site furthers the goals of Honest Reporting. Anything else is a distraction.
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YA
11:55 pm
Apr 16, 2012
Ladies and Gentlemen, please stop blustering. Where Obama was born is no longer relevant. He was elected President of the USA and he has been in office for the last three years. We have by now learnt what he is about, without a shadow of a doubt. It is not about the colour of his skin. There are several African-American politicians who would qualify as much as any WASP’s for the top job. But what Obama is about is more than scary. He is not only anti-Israel, which is anti-Semitic, but he is also anti-USA.
The attitude to Jews throughout history and to Israel is a sure litmus test of any leader’s or nation’s intellectual and moral integrity. Look throughout history who were the haters of Jews and those who were Judeophiles and you will see what they did to the freedom and prosperity of their own people and the rest of the Free World.
See Hitler, Stalin, Saddam Hussein, Ahmanijenad etc…. .
So the real question is “Is Obama’shis re-election a danger for Israel’s survival?” The answer is definitely “Yes”. In spite of his gesticulations, it is clear that he is doing everything in his power to enable Iran to obtain the nuclear bomb. He is doing everything possible to render Israel powerless in the face of the Islamonazis. And why? Because whether he was born in Kenya or Honolulu or whatever, Obama Hussein Barak is a Moslem and he will promote the Islamic agenda, with all his might, in his very sly modus operandi, to the very end. And if you study the modus operandi of Islamic conquests, you will discover that all the elements of this process are in place today. And Obama is one of the key elements.
While we are chattering about where he was born, Obama and his etat-major are preparing for an alliance with the Islamonazis and Obama’s virtual dictatorship in the USA. .
Cry for Israel and the rest of the Free World. And don’t say you didn’t know.
What is to be done? Do everything in your power to prevent his re-election. Expose his agenda and what he is doing by surrounding himself with the Islamo-nazis. That is totally unconstitutional. Find reasons to impeach him. Arguing with the morons and useful idiots who support him about where Obama was born is a waste of your time. Stop the Islamo-Nazis from taking over America and the rest of the Free World…Just as they should have stopped Hitler before he wrought such carnage and desolation on the Free World. And the murder of six million Jews.
If you love America and its freedoms, don’t sleep, stop Obama getting re-elected.
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Michael
10:15 pm
Apr 17, 2012
Enough already. This last commenter is obviously not from the US and has an agenda to follow.
Whether you likr or dislike Obama he is an American and has this country at heart. You mmay not like his policies but let’s keep the religious and political fervor out of this question
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michael
12:58 am
Sep 22, 2012
One gets sick and tired of all of this B——t regarding Obama and he ignorance shown by some of thw commenters.
Since when does the Constitution require that the parent of the President be an American citizen?
Before commenting the writers should show at least some sense of knowledge
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