Weekly Question: Is it correct to reduce the rights of Palestinian prisoners while Gilad Shalit is still held captive?
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October 11, 2011
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Is it correct to reduce the rights of Palestinian prisoners while Gilad Shalit is still held captive?
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Ariel
7:19 pm
Oct 11, 2011
It’s overwhelmingly obvious that no one thinks we should treat palestinian prisoners as well as they are being treated, in light of how Gilad Shalit is being treated. The question is why are they treated so well? … by whom … and what can we do about it? This needs to be made an issue of electing the next administration in Israel. Personally I’m for a return of the death penalty for killing Israeli citizens.
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Yotam
12:50 pm
Oct 12, 2011
I agree. I’m generally against the death penalty, even for murder, but in this case the intent needs to weigh in – people who are dedicating their lives to genocide (even if they’re horribly unsuccessful) should not be allowed to remain alive. In the US you would be sentenced to death for much less.
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B. Label
7:52 pm
Oct 11, 2011
Of course. Israel should severely restrict and limit visits, if not discontinue them altogether.
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Steven Muller
8:53 pm
Oct 11, 2011
No. The way we treat prisoners is a reflection of our values, whether or not we feel the prisoners “deserve” it. Punishing adversaries symbolically is what they do, not what we do. That’s the difference between us. If we erase that difference, we’re no better than they are. That’s why the Dome is still on the Temple Mount. If the situation were reversed, if it was a (the) Temple, it would be ashes and pebbles by now.
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Carl Masonberg
9:15 pm
Oct 11, 2011
There are several things that shoud be taken into consideration before answering this question definitively:
1) Do the Israeli’s wish to lower themselves to the Palestinians in terms of prisoner treatment. This impacts how Israel is viewed in the World community and also is a commentary on Israeli human rights values.
2) Do Israeli’s even know the level of treatment of Shalit?
3) By reducing Palestinian prisoner rights, Israel could be prompting even poorer treatment of Shalit.
4) Given their low premium on human life/suffering, would lowering prisoner rights even impact Palestinian conscience or actions?
5) On the other hand, should Israeli’s consider the feedback impact of Palestinian prisoners regarding their treatment (that is if Palestinians are allowed to communicate with Palestinian authorities about these things)?
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Susan
7:34 am
Oct 12, 2011
Frankly it will shock me to actually see this poor young man. And if he is alive? There is no telling the extent of torture that they put Shalit through. Making “nice-nice” with Islamic Totalitarianism never works because one has to BE human to have compassion or empathy for another.
Especially…with these people who continually harass The Jews….I pray for this young man and for Israel + the Peace of Jerusalem…soon there will be peace.
Question? why is it that Israel gives away/sets free 100′s -maybe many more of the terrorist killers of Islam back into the battle and Israel are lucky to get a few? That’s always puzzled me.
#1 – Is it correct to reduce the rights of Palestinian prisoners while Gilad Shalit is still held captive? YES!
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Viiit
12:03 am
Oct 12, 2011
Just kill the murderers.
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Naftali Spector
3:12 am
Oct 12, 2011
For the particularly brutal killers (think the Fogels) the murders deserve the death penalty
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michael grant
12:46 am
Oct 12, 2011
abselotly 100% yes
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Tony Sophocleous
5:19 am
Oct 12, 2011
Israel keeps bending over to project an image of fairness and goodwill towards the Palestinians, no questions asked. Politics like business in general require a bit of give and take. It seems to me that Israel is all “give” and “no take”. Beware that one too many concession does not lead to a complete capitulation.
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steve mann
11:19 am
Oct 12, 2011
I understand Israel is to swap 1000 terrorists for Shalit-
Now when Israel retaliates against Hamas`s rockets- The first cliché we hear from the Western media and left wing politicians is “Its Disproportionate”.
So will we hear the same against Hamas`s demands- ONE for a THOUSAND surely “Its Disproportionate”.!
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sav'ta shel Cohen
11:53 am
Oct 12, 2011
Wonderful news about Gilad’s release! The world was silent for years and did nothing to have this young man released! Gilad’s captivity became a symbol of the world’s apathy towards Israel and the Jewish people but he also became a symbol of the sense of community that exists between Jews and the ability of the Jewish people to never lose hope and of their reverence for life! One way or another Gilad had to be returned to his family, to the Jewish people and to the State of Israel. Now a way has been found to accomplish that but it does not seem very satisfactory. However, I have great faith in the resourcefulness and initiative of Israel and the many highly skilled and intelligent people who defend it. Whatever happens as a result of this swap Israel will deal with in its own time and in its own unique way – of that I am sure! Israel will also now be free to exact justice upon those responsible for this despicable act of terrorism because Gilad will no longer be their hostage! I also know that Israel will use all the resources available to it to support Gilad in overcoming any damage caused by these cowardly captors! “Blessed are you, Hashem, Who heals the sick of his people Israel.”
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marcy
12:23 pm
Oct 12, 2011
we need to implement the death penalty for anyone with Jewish blood on their hands. we also need to stop worrying about what the world thinks. our supporters will remain our supporters and the anti-shemetim will never like us, we must do only what is best for our homeland and protect ourselves against the maniacim who want to destroy us. no room for debate.
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Brent Pudsey
2:29 pm
Oct 12, 2011
The key issue is how we treat others. We need to show empathy to them and to deal with them mercifully.
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Nathan Zafran
6:27 pm
Oct 12, 2011
Now that an agreement has been reached to exchange Arab terrorists for Gilad Shalit, the question is irrelevant. I do however have one query, in retrospective, I would appreciate a learned opinion on the question. We were always hearing that the terrorists were entitled to Red Cross visits, under international law, as indeed was Gilad. But wait a minute – Gilad was a genuine POW, but the Aeabs were convicted and sentenced butchers, killers, murderers and blood thirsty bababarians. They were not POW’s. Please your opinions.
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Karen
8:48 pm
Oct 13, 2011
I so agree with what Nathan said, what did Gilad Shalit ever do to deserve his captivity? He was an IDF soldier that was helping to defend his country. So yes, he is a bonified POW deserving of regular visits from the International Red Cross agency. But, he never got even one visit from them, due to the refusal of his captors and their cruelty. All ‘human rights’ have been denied to Gilad. G-d only know how much torture and deprivation this young man has suffered at the hands of his “Hamas” captors, and not a peep from the ‘international community’ who are so outraged when an Arab is supposedly ‘mistreated’ by Israel. Yet the convicted Palestinian Arab prisoners of Israel are allowed regular visits from the Red Cross/Crescent agencies and are allowed to play games, watch television, read, learn, have decent living conditions and on and on. Still the world looks at Israel as “occupiers, torturers, murderers, etc.” They say we don’t treat the “Palestinian Arabs” with respect, etc.
I would like to know how much further does Israel have to bend before there is an end to this appeasement to the world? Will there ever be enough to satisfy them all? I doubt it. Israel needs to wake up and realise that releasing 1000 terrorists with blood on their hands for one IDF soldier is madness! What will the result of this political manuever be for Israel? Most likely these monsters will return to their murdering ways and more Israeli citizens will die! Well, the Hamas leader who commented on Israel’s decision said it the best . . . “We just proved that the kidnapping of soldiers is justified, because it WORKS!!!” Yet the leaders of Israel still don’t get it, even when Hamas tells them to their faces that KIDNAPPING WORKS . . . does this sound like they will stop at Gilad Shalit? What if the next soldier taken is G-d forbid a female soldier? What will Israel’s Government tell her family while she is being tortured and raped, and denied any ‘human rights’. Will Israel give away 2000 terrorists the next time, or maybe even more, what will be the end of all of this? This is a dangerous precident that is being set.
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diana
10:35 pm
Oct 16, 2011
1) I don’t understand why the Palestinian prisoners are allowed visitors and Shalit is not.
2) Family visits should NOT be allowed until the deal is finished and complete.
3) And if after the deal is successfuly completed, another Israeli is captured. I would suspend every priviledge from every Palestinian prisoner SELECTIVELY AND INMEDIATELY.
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Jon
4:42 am
Oct 18, 2011
I would distinguish by types of prisoners. Those that can be classified as terrorists should not have these rights to begin with, whether or not Gilad was in captivity. Why give them the luxuries of TV in arabic and better education than they would get in their own cities when they are trying to murder you? Those that are political prisoners would have slightly more rights than terrorists, but those can also be treated with fewer priveleges – yes, these are priveleges and not ‘rights’ – than ordinary criminals. As for lowering Israel’s moral image in the eyes of the world, Israel needs to take a page out of the book from the Torah. When Jacob has to deal with the treachurous Lavan, he resorts to the same trickery being dealt against him. Or as the saying goes, when in Rome…
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Abu Nudnik
11:53 pm
Oct 19, 2011
They have rights? Why do criminals have rights?
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albert
6:25 pm
Oct 31, 2011
The PLO along with Hamas claim that that the conditions in Israeli jails are worst than the concentration camps. How can one argue with such delusions. The hatred to the Jews in the Muslim world is similar to Nazi germany.
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