Rachel Corrie: Media Issue Their Own Verdicts
August 28, 2012 15:09 by Simon Plosker
An Israeli court has ruled against a civil action taken by the family of International Solidarity Movement activist Rachel Corrie. According to an Israeli judge:
This was a very unfortunate accident and not an action undertaken with intent… The deceased put herself into a dangerous situation, standing in front of a large bulldozer in a place where the operator could not see her. She did not distance herself as a reasonable person would have done.
Corrie’s death, he said, was “the result of an accident she brought upon herself.”
Unsurprisingly, the verdict has made international news. The inappropriate headline of the day goes to the Daily Telegraph:
Contrary to the headline, it was not Israel absolving itself of all blame but the very credible and thorough Israeli legal system which had examined the case in great detail. There are plenty of times when Israeli judges have ruled against the state or the IDF and there is no reason to believe that the judge in this case did not come to his conclusions without prejudice.
This wasn’t enough, however, to stop Jon Snow, the UK Channel 4′s top news presenter from describing the verdict as “grim”:
Is Jon Snow expressing his distaste for the verdict? If so, perhaps he should stick to reporting the news rather than passing his own judgments.
Rachel Corrie even became part of a “cycle of violence” according to The Guardian. This part of Harriet Sherwood’s report stood out:
At the time – the height of the second intifada, or Palestinian uprising – house demolitions were common, part of an increasing cycle of violence from both sides. Palestinian suicide bombers were causing death and destruction with terrifying frequency; the Israeli military was using its mighty force and weaponry to crush the uprising.
So, according to The Guardian’s Harriet Sherwood, house demolitions to prevent Palestinian weapons smuggling fall into the same category as blowing up Israeli buses or cafes; Israeli measures to protect its civilian population are of the same moral equivalence as the Palestinian terrorism that deliberately targeted Israeli civilians; the death of Rachel Corrie in a tragic accident no different to the deaths of Israeli victims of terror.
And all of this as part of a “cycle of violence”.
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Motti
11:19 am
Aug 31, 2012
I notice that those who agree with statements explain why. , but those who disagree generally don’t explain why. Perhaps, they might to explain why.
In the USA, those who support people like Corrie are usually known for their Israeland/or Jew hating statements, just as in other countries. It really is time for Israel to stop expensive investigations because other countries demand and support the ability of those who conduct any form of warfare against the state. Israel needs to be far more concerned at the war crime of open warfare eminating from Gaza upon the surrounding Israeli areas. The warcrime of indiscriminate bombing of Israel by Hamas, supportrted by Iran
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Barry
2:33 pm
Aug 31, 2012
Corrie Lawyer: Nazi Germany was Legal; Founding Israel was Theft
by Rachel Hirshfeld
The hateful mindset of the lawyer for Rachel Corrie’s family has been revealed by Palestinian Media Watch, which reports the lawyer called Israel “a giant monster” in a July rant and compared it unfavorably to Nazi Germany.
After a court exonerated Israel on Tuesday from responsibility for Corrie’s death, the family’s Israeli Arab lawyer, Hussein Abu Hussein, said in a statement to the press: “It’s a black day for activists of human rights and people who believe in values of dignity. We believe this decision is a bad decision for all of us: civilians first of all, and peace activists.”
Yet it turns out that this was a relatively mild statement for the lawyer. In a Palestinian Authority television interview in July, Hussein revealed his attitude toward the Jewish state, saying that Israel’s founding was worse than the founding of Nazi Germany because “Nazi Germany was a state based on the rule of law for a short while,” whereas “the State of Israel was founded from the start on robbery and theft.”
According to Palestinian Media Watch, he went on to call Israel a “giant monster” and indicated that people should take action against Israel saying, “We all want to step on its head, but talking is not enough. Everyone has their role.”
Rachel Corrie was accidentally killed by an Israeli army bulldozer in Gaza, as she stood in a spot where civilians were not allowed and she could not be seen by the driver, this at a time when Israel was acting in self-defense in an effort to curb terrorist activity in the area.
Corrie’s family filed the civil suit against the Defense Ministry in the district court seven years ago. They claimed that the IDF either deliberately killed Corrie or is at least guilty of gross negligence.
The court invoked the “combatant activities” exception, which states that a country’s armed forces cannot be held liable for physical or economic harm to civilians that occurs in an area defined as a war zone.
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Barry
2:44 pm
Aug 31, 2012
If this is her lawyer’s opinion, imagine Corrie’s family’s, and her own opinions on Israel. At least the young anarchist was an equal opportunity hater, in that she hated her own country as well as Israel. What goes through someone’s mind as to make them hate free societies, democracies, and apple pie; while supporting terrorism, repressive regimes, propaganda and lies? While i find the average person’s death to be tragic, I somehow can’t bring myself to mourn the stupid hateful wench. The idiot steps in front of a bulldozer and somehow its someone else’s fault. More of her type should step in front of bulldozers and the world would be a better place for it.
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m
4:19 pm
Aug 31, 2012
Barry, your quote about the filthy layer that lost the case…
“According to Palestinian Media Watch, he went on to call Israel a “giant monster” and indicated that people should take action against Israel saying, “We all want to step on its head, but talking is not enough. Everyone has their role.”"
Isn’t it rich that that bastard has been educated in Israel & lives a wonderful life in Israel, condemns the very country that gave it the opportunity? A traitor, & a good example of why every damn arab should be thrown out of the country. It refers to Israel as a Nazi state? Then let them act the part! It doesn’t matter anyway how Isreal treats anyone; they are condemned.
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Barry
5:26 pm
Aug 31, 2012
M, i agree! And that is why I equate him with Corey to begin with. She was just like him in hating her own country. I’ve been saying for years that Israel is just way too kind to the very people that wish to see her destroyed. (eg. free education for jailed Palestinian terrorists..etc.) Interesting how Arabs flock to obtain Israeli residency status, but do not seem to flock to live in areas controlled by the PA or any other Arab entities. They have more rights and freedoms provided them by the state they revile than they do by the states they support. Human displacement has been fact everywhere on earth, but Israel is treated differently. Without such displacement, there can be no peace.
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m
5:36 pm
Aug 31, 2012
Barry, our world is upside down. It’s like a bad movie.
As for Israel, I am not not an expert but from what I see, they are one of their own enemies. As with us in the collective West, they have pandered to the arabs and their leftist supporters to the point of no return.
A warrior nation that has hamstrung itself with political correctness & this wish to make ppl like them. It is never going to happen, so if u can’t make ppl “like you”, then make them at least respect you, right? Israel gets ZERO respect & that attention whore Rachel Corrie was a perfect example. She was fearless of Israel, assured that they would not hurt her. Failed to take into account that accidents can happen.
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Barry
6:01 pm
Aug 31, 2012
I certainly can’t argue with what you say. Israel is faced with a situation not seen anywhere else. Even with Nazi Germany all was forgiven and forgotten by the world not 20 years after they murdered 50 million people. Millions were displaced in Europe. But if Israel tickets an Arab for j-walking, there is mass hysteria; claims of “holocausts” and “massacres”. Hell, Israel is crucified for building a defensive wall to keep suicide bombers out! The mistake of Israel’s founders was that they thought that given rights and respect, local Arabs would accept them. Not so (from enough of them). They will at some point have to resort to being the bad guys, expelling them, and being forgiven later
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Gary Katz
6:00 pm
Aug 31, 2012
Israeli citizens have the right to hate Israel, just as U.S. citizens have the right to hate America. The price of freedom, I guess. Even if they violate the law, they can be imprisoned, but not deported. Besides, it’s bad enough that Arabs who left voluntarily & at the urging of Muslim leaders in 1948 are still considered “refugees” (along with their great grandkids who were never in Israel). Can you imagine the “refugee” issues that would haunt Israel for decades if Arab citizens were forcibly evicted?
Israel could amend its Constitution to revoke citizenship of those who violently attack the state. Not likely or necessarily desirable. Too police-statey.
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Barry
6:11 pm
Aug 31, 2012
Yes, and this is why democracies are so vulnerable. They can be destroyed from within. And to fight this, compromises in the law need to be reached. In some cases, expulsions would serve later peace. As for the Palestinian refugee issue, its all a game played by the Arabs to further fight Israel. Never before have refugees existed for more than a few years..and never have those numbers included decedents. Why are there still refugee camps in Arab countries over 50 years later. Because Arab leaders are cynical neanderthals that would rather get rich off the suffering of their own than to be exposed for their bad policies at home. And what of all the Jewish refugees from Arab countries?
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m
6:58 pm
Aug 31, 2012
“Israeli citizens have the right to hate Israel, just as U.S. citizens have the right to hate America. The price of freedom, I guess. Even if they violate the law, they can be imprisoned, but not deported”
Yes yes, I know all that. Irt was just wishful thinking on my part.
But I still maintain that Israel may as well do what they are accused of. Call me old fashioned but remember what your parents told you when you were whining for nothing? Shut up or I’ll give you something to whine about.
It might just give them some respect and then they won’t have to act that way.
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M.Otero
5:37 am
Sep 11, 2012
The Arab refugees so often speak of their ancient Palestinian homeland; but after the Herzl conference (1897?), the Arabs attempted to head off the creation of a Jewish homeland by sending in landless farmers from Egypt and Syria. After the beginning of the British Mandate, thousands more Arabs sought employment and came from nearby lands. Can we estimate the number of 1947-67 Arab refugees who were were descended from those Arab families long established in the land BEFORE 1902? My own guess is that many or most were rather rootless by habit or culture and had come AFTER 1902. Is Palestine truly the “ancient homeland” of most of the refugees? Any facts? UN facts?
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Gary Katz
6:06 pm
Aug 31, 2012
They’d never be forgiven. Israeli Jews would have some real religious conflicts doing something like that. They are bound to treat non-Jewish citizens fairly: “For you were strangers in the Land of Egypt.”
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Barry
6:25 pm
Aug 31, 2012
These are difficult issues for civilized people. But in the interest of survival, those who act to oppose and terrorize their own state should be transferred elsewhere, not supported by the state for eternity at the citizen’s expense. For extreme cases there should be a death penalty (like in the lynching of the 2 soldiers in Ramallah). If enough of this happens, they will think thrice before kidnapping the next soldier, killing the next hiker, or bombing the next pizzaria. These people have to be taught that Israel is here to stay, and will not capitulate to their terror. That their actions will result in their own sufferings and possibly of their families as well. its a tough neighborhood.
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m
7:02 pm
Aug 31, 2012
“But in the interest of survival, those who act to oppose and terrorize their own state should be transferred elsewhere, not supported by the state for eternity at the citizen’s expense. For extreme cases there should be a death penalty (like in the lynching of the 2 soldiers in Ramallah). If enough of this happens, they will think thrice before kidnapping the next soldier, killing the next hiker, or bombing the next pizzaria. These people have to be taught that Israel is here to stay, and will not capitulate to their terror. ”
1000000% in agreement with you. If only they could.
As Gary pointed out, unfortunately one can’t be deported from one’s own country
Then hang the prick eh?
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Gary Katz
6:18 pm
Aug 31, 2012
Everything you said about Pal “refugees” is accurate. That’s why they really should be called, “Pawnestinians.” Still, I’d rather live in a democracy with problems than Sparta.
The Jewish refugees are like all refugees except Palestinians. They moved on with and improved their lives. Still, tying compensation to Pal refugees to compensation to Jewish refugees is a good negotiating tactic.
Since descendants of Arabs who used to live in Israel are considered refugees, I guess that makes me a refugee of the Bolshevik Revolution, because that’s when my grandparents fled Russia! I won’t hold my breath waiting to get our old family house back.
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Barry
6:45 pm
Aug 31, 2012
Agreed. But all the more reason to be tougher than more lax in such issues. No one’s talking about creating a Sparta, merely getting tough in certain situations. Like refugees, terrorists etc. Nothing that would impact a peaceful citizen. The nicer you try and be, the more the cynical Arab leaders will take advantage of that kindness. Terrorists? Kill em or deport em. Don’t house & educate em, only to release them the next time a soldier is kidnapped. Refugees? They left at the behest of their own governing powers..next issue. They don’t like the negotiation process? Ok, then let them deal with the status-quo for another 50 years. They won’t like that either. Intifada? deport the rioters!
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Motti
1:41 pm
Sep 02, 2012
Why bring the Pawnees into it? I call thse corrupt dregs of humanity FAKESTINIANS. The whole idea of Palestine is a hoax. It was the paedophilic murderer Yasser Arafart who started the concept of a Palestinian nation to counter Zionism and Isarael They had no other name.
Why do they take a new name of Palestine which was the British colonial term for the territories it won during the 1st World War against the Ottoman Empire? Prior to 1948, the Arabs were….well Arabs and Jews were called the Palestinians,
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m
5:31 pm
Sep 01, 2012
As I sit here mulling this over, I can’t help pondering how long this attention whore would have lasted had she tried to pulled off the same stunt in any of the surrounding islamic shit hole countries. Her actions have cost many people in many ways. Good riddance to bad rubbish; maybe other “peace activists” will think a bit in the future, what their actions do.
My heart goes out to the driver of the dozer who has to live with this, a misery to him and his family caused by Rachel Corrie and her leaders.
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SM ISAC
9:43 pm
Sep 04, 2012
“My heart goes out to the driver of the dozer” My sentiment, exactly.
Imagine the breathtaking arrogance of this young (stupid) woman who must have been feeling smug and SAFE knowing well that IDF would not deliberately harm her, playing chicken with the military bulldozer in a war zone.
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Mr. Light-Bright
6:53 pm
Sep 01, 2012
Rachel Corrie is no “martyr(saint)” in generally excepted Christian standards. I am not strictly speaking religious but telling even purely secular people that “martyrdom” has different definitions.
Some might see it as Jihad (death while dealing out death in the strife for Islam). Some might see it as Crusade-style like the sick: Norway killer Anders Breivik (he himself said “modern-day crusader”) P.S. he was a “Cultural Christian”
To be a real Christian styled martyr one must die without taking lives of others. One must also be SUBMISSIVE to a point 1 Peter 2:13 “Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every authority instituted among men: whether to the king, as the supreme authority,”
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Mr. Light-Bright
6:59 pm
Sep 01, 2012
P.S. I am NO ultra pacifist. I believe in being passive to a point — it can be very beneficial, for one can lay in wait for the moment until it is LEGALLY expectable to contest the oppressor.
God is that which keeps the “natural order” If a person is secular when reading this they should keep in mind I am appealing to that in a way. To be a real martyred, one should appeal to the natural order, that which everyone knows divides good and bad.
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Josephine Bacon
8:10 pm
Sep 02, 2012
Motti is absolutely right The Palestinians are an invention post-2967 war, before that they called themselves Arabs and nothing else. The funny thing is that the Arabs I know, most of whom grew up after 1967, don’t believe me when I tell them that, although I was living in Israel well before and during the Six-Day War (look up the BBC website for my recollections of the war in Jerusalem).
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Harvey Rogers
10:24 pm
Sep 02, 2012
To Motti: You made a sad mistake.. Britain never “won” what became the Palestine Mandate. They were given a Mandate there to “Create a homeland for the Jewish People. (you can read the Mandate on line.) Of course they double crossed the League of Nations who gave them the mandate as well as the Jewish people, by giving 77% of the Mandate to a Tribe from Saudi Arabia. (NowJordan)The British never gave one inch to the Jewish People.
If you don’t know the history, how can you blame others for their ignorance.
Much of the world has irrationally hated the Jewish People for thousands of years. Learn the facts and spread them as much s possible.
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Barry
11:05 pm
Sep 02, 2012
But the point of the matter isn’t in such details. Even only 1/3 of the territory of the original British Mandate seems too much for people to be able to abide by as having been set aside as a Jewish homeland. “Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of 1 percent of the landmass.” and even that is too much. There is no amount of land that will be acceptable as being Jewish. And the invented reasons for it (Palestinians) will never cease to be conjured. Motti’s point is just that. Perhaps flawed in a few details, but nevertheless true in concept. In WW2 “Jews go back to Palestine”. Today, “Jews get out of Palestine”.
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Motti
11:24 am
Sep 04, 2012
Harvey, I am correct when I stated that Britain won the territories during WWI. They evicted the Ottomans and took control, They and the French renamed the Ottoman lands with new Countries, or territories. They accepted the Mandate and then did everything they could to stop the Jewish homeland, as a betrayal of their own commitments.
It was the British military that was behind this turmoil, even at the beginning going against instructions from Whitehall. It was finally left to Churchill to tear 2/3rd of the Mandate away from it’s controlled Mandate. Even that was supposed to be temporary until a new Jewish state was to be found. This is all well documented.
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Harvey Rogers
10:46 pm
Sep 02, 2012
Who paid for Rachel Corrie’s 5000 to 6000 mile flight to Fatahland? Who made her housing and eating arrangements while she was there? Was she paid money for going? Who told her where to stand? Has she ever stood up for any other people who were aggrieved of claimed to be so.
When all is made public she will be shown to be a terrorist agent. She thought that she could thwart the Israeli government’s policy of trying to knock down the houses of terrorist mass murdererss o that they would not be discouraged from killing more Jews.
Can you imagine her family suing in a Sharia court.
Israel and Jews in general, will mistakenly continue attempt to show the world what wonderful people they are.
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Reb Mordechai
5:45 pm
Sep 04, 2012
A most outstanding and spectacular example of 100% totally one sided reporting which had the International Solidarity Movement been asked to write, could not have done a better job, comes from the London Evening Standard.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/israeli-court-rejects-lawsuit-by-parents-of-activist-rachel-corrie-crushed-to-death-by-army-bulldozer-8083758.html
Guaranteed to take your breath away. I think it even puts The Guardian in the shade with its Anti-Israel bias. Truly amazing.
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